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    Test cycle 8 vs 10 weeks?

    Everything I have read has suggested cycling test in 10-12 week cycles but due to my training cycle I would prefer to cyle it for only 8 weeks. If this makes it much more ineffective I will definately extend the cycle I just wanted some experienced input. This will be my first cycle. I am 21 years old 208 and 5' 10". Current cycle plan:
    Dbol : weeks 1-4 25mg ed
    Deca : weeks 1-8 400mg /w
    S250: weeks 1-8 500mg /w
    Proviron : 50mg ed
    Clomid: 300/100/50 weeks 12-15

    I'm considering a single ester test such as Test Depo instead of Sustanton. I've also read somewhere that the deca and test should not be stopped at the same time. Sould I run Deca for two weeks longer than the test? Thanks in advance.
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    depending on your past cycle experience, if this is your first, stick with this one you have here, but if this is like your 3rd or 4th cycle, I would up the deca to 10 weeks, and the test most definately 10 weeks.
    Also may want to have some anti E's, like nolv and/or armidex Sustanon can cause gyno something terrible.

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    I agree w/Sicilian. Deca and test are long acting esters so you get much better results running 10-12 weeks

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    Agreed 10 weeks for both sust and deca ...looks like a good cycle.

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    Since this IS your first cycle, I suggest running a single ester test like enth., or cyp., at 500mg/wk for a min. of 10wks. I find that the longer I run a cycle the more I'm able to retain my gains. Good cycle for a newbie.

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    Thanks for the input guys. Ok 10-12 weeks. Do you think I will need the nolvadex or is the proviron enough? Also when people refer to front loading the test what are they talking about?

    Dbol : weeks 1-4 25mg ed (140 tabs)
    Deca : weeks 1-10 400mg /w (20amps)
    Test Depo: weeks 1-12 500mg /w (24amps)
    Proviron: 50mg ed (168 tabs if only 12 weeks)
    Clomid: 300/100/50 weeks 16-18 (36 tabs)

    Do I need to start the Anti-Es from Day one?

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    You should start clomid at week 14. I would have nolvadex on hand.

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    Originally posted by excalibur
    Also when people refer to front loading the test what are they talking about?
    Frontloading longer estered anabolics is a way for your blood levels to reach 'saturated' or 'peak' levels. It allows these longer esters to take effect faster.

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    Like how much Nolva on hand?

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    2-3 blister packs on hand should be enough to start...you can always get more.

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