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05-19-2013, 10:39 AM #1Member
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Estrogen Gyno Vs. Progesterone Gyno
My questions are the following, vets please feel free to chime in with knowledge...
1) What's the difference between estrogen induced gyno and progesterone induced gyno?
2) What are the different symptoms of each?
3) Can one get progesterone induced gyno from running a beginner test only cycle?
4) How do you combat the two after symptoms have arrived?
5) What things (foods, meds, env) should one avoid to help reduce the gyno (if this is even possible)?
Thank you for replying.
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05-19-2013, 03:14 PM #2Member
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05-19-2013, 07:22 PM #5
Estrogen realted gyno (in the case of AAS) is typically when excess testosterone is converted to estradiol which binds to estrogen receptors causing a hormpne imbalance where the estrogen is higher than the androgen.
Prolactin related gyno is caused by high levels of progesterone or prolactin. It is often associated with puffy nipples and milky discharge as it is what causes women to lactate. In order for this to happen higher estrogen levels must be present to work synergistacally with prolactin to cause gyno and lactation.
Keep your E2 levels in check through the use of an AI!
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05-19-2013, 07:31 PM #6
The topic that never ends, lol!
I've said this before, the relationship between progesterone, prolactin and gyno is more often misunderstood than not. When it comes to steroids that have the ability to induce gyno due to progesterone it's because progesterone has the ability to stimulate the estrogenic mechanism in the mammary tissue, not prolactin. Yes, high levels of prolactin can also be problematic but that's a separate issue. But you are right, in most cases if you keep your E2 levels in order gyno shouldn't be a problem.
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Last edited by Keep_It_Moving; 05-19-2013 at 07:42 PM. Reason: typos
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05-19-2013, 07:55 PM #9
Ranges change from lab to lab and doctor to doctor but a good range for progesterone in men is .27 - .90 ng/mL
The normal range for prolactin in men is 2-14 ng/ml, but yours should be under 8 and preferably between 2-3 if you want optimal sexual function.Last edited by Lunk1; 05-19-2013 at 07:58 PM.
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