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    3rd Cycle Critique

    Cycle 3

    Week 1-10 Test P @ 2ml EOD – 700mg/wk
    Week 1-8 NPP @ 1.5ml EOD – 525mg/wk
    Week 1-10 HCG @ 250iu every 3.5 days (Ending 3 days before PCT)
    Week 1-8 Caber @ .5mg every 3.5 days (Ending 3 days after last NPP shot)
    Week 1-10 Aromasin @ 10mg ED (Ending 3 days before PCT)

    I will be doing some Hawthorne Berry Extract and probably Cialis @ 5mg/day.
    I’m running 10 weeks due to still making gains last cycle at week 8.

    PCT: (3 days after last shot)

    Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60
    Nolva @ 40/40/20/20/20

    Cycle History:

    Cycle 1 – Test Cyp @ 500mg/wk
    Cycle 2 – Test P @ 525mg/wk

    Neither cycle produced any undesirable sides other than usual acne.

    Questions:

    1. Is NPP dose good for first time or should I reduce it?
    2. Is my ending time for Caber correct?
    3. Any other issues or concerns?

    Thank you guys!!
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    I don't have any answers but a question. Have you used torimafine before. I am likely to use it next pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livingthedream View Post
    I don't have any answers but a question. Have you used torimafine before. I am likely to use it next pct.
    Yes much better than clomid for me! Will never use clomid again.

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    I love how you wrote the tread lol. The NPP dose is fine but how often are you going to inject? I actually ran 600mg of deca during my second cycle. Never messed with caber so not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-56 View Post
    I love how you wrote the tread lol. The NPP dose is fine but how often are you going to inject? I actually ran 600mg of deca during my second cycle. Never messed with caber so not sure.
    I can't stand when people post cycle critiques that make no sense so I like to take some time to make it a quality post. Also, I'm doing 1.5ml/EOD so 1.5ml Every Other Day. This would be a total of 3.5cc EOD or 12.25cc/week with 525mg of the total 1225mg being NPP.

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    Bf did you read post about aromasin , I use it at 10mg too but from the new studies on it I see it should be ran at 25 mg Ed. Just asking, I used it at 10 and when I felt I needed it I would up to 12.5 and had no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppwc1985 View Post
    Bf did you read post about aromasin, I use it at 10mg too but from the new studies on it I see it should be ran at 25 mg Ed. Just asking, I used it at 10 and when I felt I needed it I would up to 12.5 and had no problems.
    Yes I did and it was a great read! I know that my last two cycles I ran it at 12.5 EOD and both cycles it felt like it dried me out so I would be somewhat afraid to run it at the 12.5 ED dose. Because I'm doing a higher dose of Test this time I am thinking the 10 ED is a great starting place and if need be I can adjust upward since this is an easier change to make.

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    I believe you are jumping to fast brother. Following your cycle progression it would seem like the next logic cycle would be 600mg and test a week and 25mg of dbol perhaps? What are you going to run for your 4th cycle? Your 6th cycle?

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...your-dose.html

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    For what I want to achieve by the use of AAS, I feel this isn't too extreme. Yes, I've read that article many times and think about it often but once again.......I don't think my choices are too extreme. My lifestyle, lifting experience, dedication, discipline, and diet all together make me comfortable running this cycle.

    I'm looking for any issues with the cycle that may not be correct. I'm a huge believer in doing your own research instead of just asking on this board so I feel this cycle has come together perfectly BUT I'm not adverse to outside opinion regarding minor tweaks.

    As far as my 4th or 5th cycle, I see npp again and then on to tren eventually. I would like to get experience with this 19-nor before slaying the tren dragon.

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    I think it looks great! Please run a log. I love to see ppl start with nandrolone as the 1st attempt at a 19nor. Best of luck buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I think it looks great! Please run a log. I love to see ppl start with nandrolone as the 1st attempt at a 19nor. Best of luck buddy!
    Thank you Lunk! I was hoping you would see this and comment, appreciate it!

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    Well good luck then =)

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    Thanks mang!

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    That is a very well organized cycle. It's good to read from someone who has done their homework.

    1. No, I'd say that looks great. You could increase the weekly dose to 600mg, but I don't think you'll be disappointed with 525.
    2. Caber has a reported half life of 63 to 69 hours. I would take it with my final NPP injection.
    3. I also have two girlfriends who like to do pull-ups together.

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    Why do you think you need to run [email protected] 700mg on only your 3rd cycle? 500mg should be good for a while bro.

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    Ohhhhhhhhh I thought you where running 1225 of npp a week >,<. But then lunk commented so I was like **** it lol. Yeah as Brian mentioned you could increase as far as 600 as I had during my second cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBrian View Post
    That is a very well organized cycle. It's good to read from someone who has done their homework.

    1. No, I'd say that looks great. You could increase the weekly dose to 600mg, but I don't think you'll be disappointed with 525.
    2. Caber has a reported half life of 63 to 69 hours. I would take it with my final NPP injection.
    3. I also have two girlfriends who like to do pull-ups together.
    Thank you!!

    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Why do you think you need to run [email protected] 700mg on only your 3rd cycle? 500mg should be good for a while bro.
    I'm basing this on the fact that the UGL test as of late is dosed less than the label suggests and I can't get Pharma Grade. I will get blood work done to see if I can support my theory that 700mg/wk will provide the levels a Pharma Grade product would at 500mg/wk. I know my 525mg/wk dose showed a level less than what it should've for the dose but it was legit gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-56 View Post
    Ohhhhhhhhh I thought you where running 1225 of npp a week >,<. But then lunk commented so I was like **** it lol. Yeah as Brian mentioned you could increase as far as 600 as I had during my second cycle.
    Ha ha, no way that would be crazy!! Ok, sounds good!

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    There are plenty of other sources out there bro.While ULG isnt Pharm I know you can do a lot better than you got.

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