Caber/Prami necessary with NPP?

**Infidel101** · 05-20-2013, 09:37 AM

Pretty much settled on my next run. Having a bit of trouble coming up with Caber. I have a source for it, just doesn't have any right now. Is it absolutely imperative to run Caber or Prami with NPP? I will be running an AI and keeping an eye on my estrogen. Just don't want to have any Progesterone induced gyno. Never had gyno issues with any of my other runs and body fat is at 12% hopefully lower by the time I start cycle.

Would it be ok to get some Prami from Ar-r for "just in case" purposes or is it really worth running it? I have a pretty random sleep schedule with work and can't afford to have something that knocks me out.

**gearbox** · 05-20-2013, 09:47 AM

technically no, but you need to control estro and prolac should not be a problem. However, some ppl do not fall into this category so you should definitely have it one hand. many take a low dose 2x a week cause they feel better doing so.
what doses of NPP

**Infidel101** · 05-20-2013, 09:50 AM

150 mg EOD for the NPP. AI will be Arimidex at .25 ED.

**gearbox** · 05-20-2013, 09:52 AM

I would bump to .50 eod if it was me but I have a lot of experience to know the signs of my estro being high or low.
have prolac on hand before you start

**gearbox** · 05-20-2013, 09:52 AM

I would wait to bump the ai up until NPP was working in my system. takes time to build up and .50 may shut your estro down before the first 3 weeks but not likely

**Infidel101** · 05-20-2013, 09:56 AM

I'm running Test PhenylProp at 150mg EOD and Test Prop at 50mg EOD along with the 150 mg NPP EOD. I'll keep the AI dose lower until I feel it kick in and will keep my fingers crossed I can get some Caber... if not, I'll grab the Prami. Thanks for the input.

**BlueWaffle21** · 05-20-2013, 10:46 AM

I'm running close to the same cycle and using caber, I'd rather prevent a problem than have to fix it but that's just me!

**Infidel101** · 05-20-2013, 01:38 PM

Are you running the Test Phenylprop? Curious how you like it and what the onset time or "kick in" was compared to normal prop.

**oldnsedentary** · 05-20-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by bluewaffle21

i'm running close to the same cycle and using caber, i'd rather prevent a problem than have to fix it but that's just me!

x2 !!!

**BlueWaffle21** · 05-20-2013, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Infidel101

Are you running the Test Phenylprop? Curious how you like it and what the onset time or "kick in" was compared to normal prop.

Just Prop and NPP

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-20-2013, 02:25 PM

get some prami and keep it on hand. Continue to anage e2 with dex. Prami works more quickly (and effectivey in my opinion) than caber so if you need it you will be all set. Best of luck.