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    2nd Cycle Help

    Putting together a 2nd cycle after a disappointing 1st. Any tips will help.

    Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    Week 1-10 600mg Test300 (enan, prop, cyp)
    Week 2-10 HCG 250iu E3.5D
    Clomid Nolvadex PCT 6 weeks

    Should I add anything else to this cycle or change anything?

    First cycle was test enan at 500mg/week fairly disappointing. Diet was spot on and exercise was great. Minimal gains. Thinking underdosed. Trying a better source.

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    Cycle looks good, 600mg is little high for second run and you need to add AI to it.

    4weeks of clomid&nolva will be plenty for PCT.

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    I'd agree that your bottle was probably underdosed.

    -You need to add an AI to your cycle.

    -I'd add Clomid to your PCT. Do you know how to dose that and Nolvadex properly? Also, how long do you intend to wait between final injection and PCT?

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    Yeh. Id say underdosed. My first cycle i made fantastic gains on less. Try a new one. Just make sure it aint the same crap from someone different.

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    Start PCT 2 Weeks after last injection. Also stop HCG same time.

    Doing Clomid at 50mgED week 1-2 25mgED week 3-4
    Nolvadex 20mgED week 1-2 10mgED week 3-4

    This stuff is supposed to be good. Getting direct from manufacturer no middle man.

    What dose of arimedex should I be doing while on?

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    Can get letrozole from same supplier. What kind of a dose of that should I be doing on cycle and during pct?

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    Stats ht wt age bf years training goals.

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    Pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50 you will need an AI for on cycle as well aromasin 12.5 ed or Adex .25 eod and adjust as needed
    Last edited by Bio-Active; 05-20-2013 at 03:38 PM.

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    27 6'2 195 11% 3 years. Would like to hit 220 and cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakspratt001 View Post
    27 6'2 195 11% 3 years. Would like to hit 220 and cut.
    You gotta walk before you can run bro.Just stay at it and you will get there.Good luck bro.

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    Aromasin is a better option if you can get your hands on it. Letro is notorious for rebound and both letro and arimidex effect cholesterol in negative ways.

    Might as well eliminate other problems if you can. Aromasin is the healthiest and strongest

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    Thanks. I'll try to get some aromasin. And ive already ran. Hard to go back to walking now. Thanks tho.

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