T3 necessary on Tren and Clen Cutting?

**bradhore** · 05-21-2013, 10:09 AM

A question for the more experienced users..

Is it really necessary to use t3 on my test, tren , and clen cutting cycle?

Im on my 4th week now, can feel the juice just starting to kick in, i have somehow gained 9lbs already, in the 4 weeks that i have been cutting, whether this is water retention, reduced bodyfat and increase in muscle mass, i dont know but i know i have certainly lost alot of fat, and looks like ive gained muscle too, within the 4 weeks of hard dieting and training..

My fat loss HAS actually started to slow, wondered if i should just decrease cals, and increase cardio, OR add t3????

**austinite** · 05-21-2013, 10:16 AM

T3 is never "necessary". But you can run it on cycle, no problem. I only use it while bulking though. Certainly increase cardio. Your diet is probably the issue though.

**qscgugcsq** · 05-21-2013, 10:16 AM

Cardio...
and deopping cals may help but I wouldnt... You are gaining weight so you already spent more cals than before...

And if you are gaining weight and losing fat... Even if its slower continue...

**bradhore** · 05-21-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

Cardio...
and deopping cals may help but I would... You are gaining weight so you already spent more cals than before...

And if you are gaining weight and losing fat... Even if its slower continue...

Yeah, and i really dont know how, but i dont see how it can be that much wAter retention is the first 4 weeks, especially if my diet is clean and im drinkiing 7litres of water a day to keep it to a minimum.

Will add more cardio, dont really want to drop cals as im gaining muscle with the amount of calorie intake im on right now anyway

**Allaaro** · 05-21-2013, 11:00 PM

If your looking better as the cycle goes on, don't stress....it's working. Don't weight yourself for few weeks and you'll probably see everything back to normal.

T3 is great though on cut or bulk....but I don't think you need it yet.

**bradhore** · 05-21-2013, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

T3 is never "necessary". But you can run it on cycle, no problem. I only use it while bulking though. Certainly increase cardio. Your diet is probably the issue though.

Why do you use it only while bulking????

**austinite** · 05-21-2013, 11:28 PM

To help shed fat.

**ChiveOn** · 05-21-2013, 11:32 PM

T3 seems fickle, too much and you'll always be hungry, too little and no effect. One thing to watch for if you're cutting and you plan on using T3 is that you may feel flat or depleted for some time on it. I know some guys that took it and said they had a really hard time getting a pump no matter what they ate pre workout.
Ill be starting my T3/ test/ tren in about a week or two. So keep me updated if you decide to take it and ill log the same

**bradhore** · 05-21-2013, 11:37 PM

Im still debating it, but feeling or looking flat im not sure i can deal with that.

**briansvk** · 05-21-2013, 11:39 PM

It is good to run clen with T3, because T3 upregulates Beta-2 receptors, so clenbuterol is more effective and for prolonged timeframe:

“On the brighter side, and of special note to dieters, administration of T3 has been shown to upregulate the beta 2 receptors in fat tissue. As you know clenbuterol and similar compounds downregulate this receptor, so using T3 with your clen will help stave off or reverse this downregulation. (1)(2)(3)(4). I would still recommend taking your benadryl every third week, though.”

**bradhore** · 05-21-2013, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by briansvk

It is good to run clen with T3, because T3 upregulates Beta-2 receptors, so clenbuterol is more effective and for prolonged timeframe:

“On the brighter side, and of special note to dieters, administration of T3 has been shown to upregulate the beta 2 receptors in fat tissue. As you know clenbuterol and similar compounds downregulate this receptor, so using T3 with your clen will help stave off or reverse this downregulation. (1)(2)(3)(4). I would still recommend taking your benadryl every third week, though.”

Ketotifen i heard is better..

I will probably use t3 with clen once i get down to about 12%, in 4 or 5 weeks. What are the normal dosages?

**briansvk** · 05-22-2013, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by bradhore

Ketotifen i heard is better..

I will probably use t3 with clen once i get down to about 12%, in 4 or 5 weeks. What are the normal dosages?

When I run T3 I started at 25mcg/day and went up to 75mcg/day (+25mcg after every 3 of 4 days don't remember exactly)... in the end gradually down again to 25mcg..