Anavar v test.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 11:05 AM

I am a virgin to AAS, 53 years of age, trained for 23 years.
I have been reading some interesting articles/posts, regarding VAR some are saying for a virgin 60 mg daily for 6 weeks can give some great results, comparable to test (virgin only). Some have also said it won't shut you down as much, with a little less pct needed. I understand the toxicity issues with orals, but var is reasonably mild, I am looking for 6-8 lb muscle gain, whilst dropping 2-3 % body fat. Any views I don't want to stack so it's either test or var.

**poison** · 05-28-2013, 11:15 AM

There's pretty considerable debate as to what extent var shuts you down. It definitely does inhibit you to some extent, and there are stories of users on this forum that had to stop a var only cycle after <2 weeks due to low T levels. Others were fine for 8 week cycles. For this reason, most will tell you that test alone would be the safer option. I'd actually really like to see some blood work from a var only cycle to determine if it really does shut you down all the way or not..

**poison** · 05-28-2013, 11:18 AM

One such var horror story just got bumped up: **oral only - anavar**

**Papiriqui** · 05-28-2013, 11:40 AM

Do more research on var and you will see is not all is cracked up to be. As mentioned there is a recent story that just popped up. Not trying to scare you but it has good and bad things just like any other AAS so do go about it that is very mild and all because you might react differently than those who dont get suppressed or shut down.

Everyone's body reacts different and has different tolerances. Do more research and see which way will give you the best results the safest way possible while achieving what you want.

**Times Roman** · 05-28-2013, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by dickster

I am a virgin to AAS, 53 years of age, trained for 23 years.
I have been reading some interesting articles/posts, regarding VAR some are saying for a virgin 60 mg daily for 6 weeks can give some great results, comparable to test (virgin only). Some have also said it won't shut you down as much, with a little less pct needed. I understand the toxicity issues with orals, but var is reasonably mild, I am looking for 6-8 lb muscle gain, whilst dropping 2-3 % body fat. Any views I don't want to stack so it's either test or var.

don't run any steroid without test. if you only want a single compound, then go with test.

**Back In Black** · 05-28-2013, 12:03 PM

I think you need to follow through your TRT investigations before considering a cycle.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 12:06 PM

Thanks.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 12:07 PM

Just read that post, it made up my mind. Test e. it is.Dickster

**Lagoon Das** · 05-28-2013, 12:10 PM

Hi Everyone, I am new to this forum.

My stats
Age-26
Height-5ft 8"
Weight- 172lbs
BF- 15% (Approx)
Testosterone level- 456 ng/dl

Been training for 2 yrs. I have decided to take steroids (ANAVAR ).

Anavar 40-50mg ED weeks 1-8 (Ethopharma Anavar 200 tabs of 10mg each)
Tribulus 4-5g ED weeks 1-12
Liv 52ds 2tabs ED weeks 1-8
Flax oil (Omega 3-6-9)weeks 1-8
Universal daily formula
On gold standard whey
Clomid 25-50mg ED weeks 9-12
Joint support ED weeks 3-8

Is this a good cycle. I also have test-E in hand & arimidex , nolva both for safe side.

Should I use only anavar . or test-E + anavar. As it's my first cycle I wanna go for single compound steroid . Pls help me.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 12:10 PM

Thanks, did not get much response from tht post, maybe my post needs some improvement. Not even sure tht is available in the UK. DIckster.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 12:12 PM

Cheers, I am learning all the time, back to the test then, Dickster.

**Back In Black** · 05-28-2013, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by dickster

Thanks, did not get much response from tht post, maybe my post needs some improvement. Not even sure tht is available in the UK. DIckster.

It is, as I suggested in one of your other threads. If you go on cycle you can NOT get a blood test for low t until AFTER your PCT, so you'd be looking at nearly 5 months. If you want to put it off for one cycle that's your choice, of course.

**dickster** · 05-28-2013, 12:24 PM

B I B, I respect what you say, and yes you are right, need to know where I stand first, must learn to walk before I run, will find out test levels somehow and post for advice. Dickster

**tdoe11** · 05-28-2013, 02:43 PM

Test is a much better, much better result giving compound. It is or should always be the base of all cycles. I have done a couple of cycles with var, both times I was disappointed. Test is much better IMO.