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    First cycle (need advice)

    Going to start my first cycle in about a month. I want to make sure I get good gains and little to
    no side effects. Any advice about my 1st cycle is GREATLY appreciated. Also any advice about my diet and the Supplements ill b taking are greatly appreciated as well .

    30yrs old
    5'9
    160lbs
    10% bf

    Wk 1-8 test e = 500mg once/wk ( would 250mg twice/wk be a better choice?)
    Inject needle 25ga. X 1

    Pct:
    Wk 11-14 nolva = 40/20/20/20

    Is arimidex / HCG advised for first cycle since test dosage is a beginner dosage? Or should I take it no matter what to be on the safe side?

    Diet: aprox.
    3000 cal
    170 protein
    70 fat
    400 carbs

    Supplements:
    *Ai sports nutrition: cycle support and post cycle support
    *Opti- men ( multi vit)
    *Omega 3
    *whey protein
    * casein protein
    *BCAA's
    *Mr Hyde pre workout
    *Dark matter post workout

    The reason Im planning on doing a 8 week test e cycle is because I read the body reaches a plateau with 8 weeks of anabolic usage. So I figure why continue with the test if I'm not going to gain from it as I did in the previous weeks.

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    AI during cycle is needed. Hcg I would never run a cycle without. Test you should split the dose and pin e3.5d. Pct should include Clomid and nolvadex

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    Also, I'd bump the calories up to about 4k, especially whilst cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy25 View Post
    Going to start my first cycle in about a month. I want to make sure I get good gains and little to
    no side effects. Any advice about my 1st cycle is GREATLY appreciated. Also any advice about my diet and the Supplements ill b taking are greatly appreciated as well .

    30yrs old
    5'9
    160lbs
    10% bf

    Wk 1-8 test e = 500mg once/wk ( would 250mg twice/wk be a better choice?)
    Inject needle 25ga. X 1

    Pct:
    Wk 11-14 nolva = 40/20/20/20

    Is arimidex / HCG advised for first cycle since test dosage is a beginner dosage? Or should I take it no matter what to be on the safe side?

    Diet: aprox.
    3000 cal
    170 protein
    70 fat
    400 carbs

    Supplements:
    *Ai sports nutrition: cycle support and post cycle support
    *Opti- men ( multi vit)
    *Omega 3
    *whey protein
    * casein protein
    *BCAA's
    *Mr Hyde pre workout
    *Dark matter post workout

    The reason Im planning on doing a 8 week test e cycle is because I read the body reaches a plateau with 8 weeks of anabolic usage. So I figure why continue with the test if I'm not going to gain from it as I did in the previous weeks.
    that 8 week thing is individual, maybe some peeps gains stop after 8 weeks but ive run many 12 week cycles and wanted to keep going cus of the results I was getting...the test e will not kick in till about 5 weeks and then your going to shut it down a few weeks later?...ill be curious if you still want to stop after 8 weeks...good luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude700
    Also, I'd bump the calories up to about 4k, especially whilst cycling.
    If he weighed 200lb would you suggest he eat 5000 cals a day? What are you basing the 4000cals on? What do you think his results would be?
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    Ok will bump up the cal to 4000 and include an AI and HCG to my cycle. Adding Clomind to my PCT as well. Good stuff thanks.

    When I start my PCT should I lower the cals back down to 3000? And what's the over-eating strategy during PCT?

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    If I start gaining too much fat ill adjust accordingly.

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    You should post up your nutrition plan in the forum and make sure it's dialed in. Your nutrition is just as important as the cycle. Not saying you don't have it dialed in but you seem kind of light for 3000 calories a day and during pct you will need to be eating enough to maintain your gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy25 View Post
    Ok will bump up the cal to 4000 and include an AI and HCG to my cycle. Adding Clomind to my PCT as well. Good stuff thanks.

    When I start my PCT should I lower the cals back down to 3000? And what's the over-eating strategy during PCT?
    see that video in youtube "rich piana on cycles" and get some information about HCG and when need it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy25
    If I start gaining too much fat ill adjust accordingly.
    4000 is way too much, take no notice (unless you have a weirdly fast metabolism or crazy calorie burning job). I'm nearly 40lbs heavier than you and gain quite nicely on about 3200cals daily.

    Post your diet plan and goals in the nutrition forum together with details of what results you have been getting on that diet.
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    Bout to check that video out.

    Ill start at 3000 cal then and see how it goes . Thx

    So injecting e3.5d is recommended than just once a week?

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    Yes every 3.5 days. Are you going to post up your meal plan in the nutrition forum?

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    Yes working on that now.

    So is it safe to inject only in the glutes? Alternating left and right sides.

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    double post, my bad



    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy25 View Post
    Bout to check that video out.

    Ill start at 3000 cal then and see how it goes . Thx

    So injecting e3.5d is recommended than just once a week?
    Last edited by largerthannormal; 05-29-2013 at 12:39 PM.

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    3000 is still a tad high for your LBM, be prepared to add a lil unwanted mass....

    also that macro split is junk bro.. 170P 400c?



    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy25 View Post
    Bout to check that video out.

    Ill start at 3000 cal then and see how it goes . Thx

    So injecting e3.5d is recommended than just once a week?

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    Alrite I tweaked my diet:

    Macros 30/40/30

    Cal = 2790
    Protein = 209
    Carbs = 279
    Fat = 93

    Look better ?
    Posting my meal plan in nutrition

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    I will go look at it.

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