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    Cycle question

    Hi Im going to begin a cycle soon and my primary goal is fat loss ( I eat clean already ) and hardening. I also want to keep it to just a couple compounds. !st question is at what amount of test will cause your body to stop making its own. 2nd would a cycle of just a medium amount of test say 4-500 mg a week with hcg and clomid help me in my goals and if not can anybody recommend a cycle suited to my goals. Thanks

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    IDK I have a stocky build though
    I have used deca 300mg a week for 10 weeks ( worked good but it messed up something else )
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewboy View Post
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    I have used deca 300mg a week for 10 weeks ( worked good but it messed up something else )
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    ^ Those stats indicate a lack of nutrition. (no offense)

    I don't think that's a safe base to build off of. You might consider adding some weight naturally for a while. Check the nutrition section to learn how to maximize on your diet.

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    I see you edited your post and now you're 265. What is your approximate body fat percentage?
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    Nah I didn't edit anything im 265. my diet plan is just eating clean natural foods with lots of veggies and I drink about 2 gallons of water a day. You would think I would be lighter but nope. All tests are normal, thyroid, free test, liver enzymes. My Dr said its just my genetics ( very wide shoulders, big legs, huge forearms, but I do hold my fat in my gut )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewboy View Post
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    IDK I have a stocky build though
    I have used deca 300mg a week for 10 weeks ( worked good but it messed up something else )
    no plan I just eat clean
    Weird. Austinites quoted block shows your weight as '165' but your post says '265' and it has not been edited. Which is it? If 165 that has to be wrung unless you are a total couch potato. It would be very hard to be almost 6' tall and have 25% bf at 165.

    Either way, both would show lack of proper diet. That's just.odd is my point.

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    Id have to say between 30 to 35 but I only hold fat in my mid section. Other areas Id say 25% based off that chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewboy View Post
    Id have to say between 30 to 35 but I only hold fat in my mid section. Other areas Id say 25% based off that chart
    Ok. Thanks for updating. Cycling with this much BF will amplify side effects tremendously and you'll find that controlling estrogen would be a very difficult task. I think you should consider a trip over to our nutrition section so they can help you cut down naturally. You need to cut that BF% in half, at minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewboy View Post
    Nah I didn't edit anything im 265. my diet plan is just eating clean natural foods with lots of veggies and I drink about 2 gallons of water a day. You would think I would be lighter but nope. All tests are normal, thyroid, free test, liver enzymes. My Dr said its just my genetics ( very wide shoulders, big legs, huge forearms, but I do hold my fat in my gut )
    I have a.good friend who's put together like that. You'd think he was fat until he wears his gym clothes. He's got 20'' arms no bs I taped them myself and he's as.strong as some of the people on 'Worlds Strongest Man' but he's not ripped. He has been lifting for as long as I have but as far back as I can remember into late teens when I met the [email protected] he was 270 at 5'11''. Just naturally big and so strong its uncivilized lol. Profile is like a tolkienesque dwarf except he's not short. Freaky genetics I guess.

    Anyways, to answer your questions:

    Quote Originally Posted by jewboy View Post
    Hi Im going to begin a cycle soon and my primary goal is fat loss ( I eat clean already ) and hardening. I also want to keep it to just a couple compounds.

    !st question is at what amount of test will cause your body to stop making its own
    . 2nd would a cycle of just a medium amount of test say 4-500 mg a week with hcg and clomid help me in my goals and if not can anybody recommend a cycle suited to my goals. Thanks
    1. It doesn't happen immediately. Exogenous test sends signals to your pituitary to tell your testes to stop producing test because you have too much already, in laymans terms. The higher the dose, the faster it happens and the more your FSH and LH will be affected. Even a small dose will most likely shut you down eventually but everyone reacts differently. HCG at about 200iu eod will keep that from happening.

    2. Don't take clomid while on cycles. Add it to your PCT 100mg on day 1, then 50/25/25/25. for 4 weeks.

    I stay on hcg through pct but some others will say not to. You have to see what works for you. see my log thread to see why I stayed on hcg.

    http://forums.steroid.com/members-cy...ation-log.html

    It helps for fat loss but I'm an advanced lifter. I was not just going for fat loss-I was also looking to build muscle and get stronger at the same time AKA body recomposition. My bf% was at least 30% of not 35. I was a hog for a guy with my bone structure. Anyways, I just did what youre looking to do so have a peek.
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    The best place for you to start bro is in the nutrision section.Post your diet with macros and they will help you.

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    Cycle question-sorry for interrupting the thread don't know how to start my own yet

    hey guys sorry i haven't figured out how to start my own thread on this forum yet BUT, i'm trying to set up my next cycle and looking at a few different versions what's your expert opinion?
    I'm 6', 192lbs, 18%bf (had back surgery so couldn't hit the gym for a few months hence the high bfp)

    I'm looking to do a cycle with Equipoise and dianabol as my PED's but debating between test cyp and test en, my personal preference would be test en as i have experience with it before, and how long either test compound should be used if stacked with equipoise. Equipoise i have not stacked with before. So i'm looking at a 12 week cycle which would look something like this;

    Test en-500mg/week 10 weeks
    Equipoise-300mg/week 12 weeks
    dianobol-30mg/ed week 4-6 weeks

    Something in that area. Growing up i hit puberty very early i developed a mild case of gyno (puffy nipples) when i was young but i'm quite afraid particularly of the hair sides. Would it be too much to add an AI during the cycle AND duestride (from the forums i've read here duestride is better than fin because it blocks both DHT receptors) and what other pct would be your best recommendation for the proposed cycle? so far i'm looking at;
    (week of PCT)
    Nolvadex - 40mg per day week 1, 20mg per day weeks 2 and 3
    Clomid- 100mg per day week 1, 50mg per day weeks 2 and 3

    I know that it is still quite a vague plan which is why im still trying to perfect it- I am particularly concerned with the use of the side management so that i feel very comfortable with the regimen for PCT and possibly during the cycle so when i do start my next cycle i have everything and every dose i need and can complete with as much confidence and knowledge as possible and no room for guessing, still aware nothing is 100%, but that everything i am doing is the best way it can be done.

    This is not my first cycle but would be first time running three PED's hence so many questions about the cycle and PCT as my concerns are specific to this cycle. I chose equiproise because from the research i've done it's one of the "safer" AAS out there with fewer severe sides.

    One last question-do you think that i would benefit at all from raloxifene for the gyno even though it's been present for so long?

    Thanks a ton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsmytime View Post
    hey guys sorry i haven't figured out how to start my own thread on this forum yet BUT, i'm trying to set up my next cycle and looking at a few different versions what's your expert opinion?
    I'm 6', 192lbs, 18%bf (had back surgery so couldn't hit the gym for a few months hence the high bfp)

    I'm looking to do a cycle with Equipoise and dianabol as my PED's but debating between test cyp and test en, my personal preference would be test en as i have experience with it before, and how long either test compound should be used if stacked with equipoise. Equipoise i have not stacked with before. So i'm looking at a 12 week cycle which would look something like this;

    Test en-500mg/week 10 weeks
    Equipoise-300mg/week 12 weeks
    dianobol-30mg/ed week 4-6 weeks

    Something in that area. Growing up i hit puberty very early i developed a mild case of gyno (puffy nipples) when i was young but i'm quite afraid particularly of the hair sides. Would it be too much to add an AI during the cycle AND duestride (from the forums i've read here duestride is better than fin because it blocks both DHT receptors) and what other pct would be your best recommendation for the proposed cycle? so far i'm looking at;
    (week of PCT)
    Nolvadex - 40mg per day week 1, 20mg per day weeks 2 and 3
    Clomid- 100mg per day week 1, 50mg per day weeks 2 and 3

    I know that it is still quite a vague plan which is why im still trying to perfect it- I am particularly concerned with the use of the side management so that i feel very comfortable with the regimen for PCT and possibly during the cycle so when i do start my next cycle i have everything and every dose i need and can complete with as much confidence and knowledge as possible and no room for guessing, still aware nothing is 100%, but that everything i am doing is the best way it can be done.

    This is not my first cycle but would be first time running three PED's hence so many questions about the cycle and PCT as my concerns are specific to this cycle. I chose equiproise because from the research i've done it's one of the "safer" AAS out there with fewer severe sides.

    One last question-do you think that i would benefit at all from raloxifene for the gyno even though it's been present for so long?

    Thanks a ton
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