Winstrol and Creatine Use

[streetcleaner]

Does it make sense to use both winstrol and creatine at the same time or should creatine be used only in bulking cycles?

[Gaspaco]

What are your stats and cycle history?

[streetcleaner]

Iv'e been on 1ml of test cyp/week for about 4 months along with creatine and lots of protein. Made good gains. I now want to start a cutting cycle but know that creatine retains water. I don't want to negate the effects of the winstrol.

[Back In Black]

Iv'e been on 1ml of test cyp/week for about 4 months along with creatine and lots of protein. Made good gains. I now want to start a cutting cycle but know that creatine retains water. I don't want to negate the effects of the winstrol.

What do you understand about creatine and what do you mean by 'retains water'?

[streetcleaner]

As I understand, the creatine helps retain/draw water in the muscle, right?

[Back In Black]

As I understand, the creatine helps retain/draw water in the muscle, right?

Right. So how would that hinder a cut? Less body fat with full muscles is good right? It won't bloat you or make you 'hold water' in a bad way.

Creatine needs a vehicle to get it to the muscles. That vehicle is carbs so, unless you are going zero carb, you will be ok. Except kre-alkalyn which doesn't need carbs from what I understand.

[streetcleaner]

Not going zero carbs. So...it looks as though I'll reap the benefits of both the winnie and creatine simultaneously. Thanks

[streetcleaner]

This does bring about another question however...If I am going to take creatine along with winstrol at approx 75 ml/EOD for 6 to 8 weeks as a cutting cycle, what adjustments do I make when I return to a "bulking" cycle? Do I simply stick with my cyp, creatine, and protein? Do I need to "cycle" creatine at all?

[bigsiv]

You have been on 1ml of test cyp for 4 months???

What the hell does that mean? What mg/ml is it and why have you been cycling for 4 months? Are you in trt? Are you taking an A.i?

[Back In Black]

Good spot bigsiv.

[streetcleaner]

I have been injecting 1cc of 200mg/ml per week as treatment for naturally low levels for about 4 months now. Since I was prescribed, I thought best to get active in the gym again. Just looking for some "beginner's" advice.

[Rwy]

I thought most pharm grade is always 200mg per ml anything else over 200mg is ugl

[Rwy]

I have been injecting 1cc of 200mg/ml per week as treatment for naturally low levels for about 4 months now. Since I was prescribed, I thought best to get active in the gym again. Just looking for some "beginner's" advice.

Even with low t being given 200mg a week of test is going to bring you back to 21 years old. I know you dont want to hear this cause no one evers does. Diet cardio and that trt dose for a year and then the winnie down the road. Much better idea

Also I wold break it up injections into every 3.5 days

[streetcleaner]

Why break it up into two doses per week?