has anyone ever gone above 800 a week ,like around a gram, with about 500 mg sus .
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has anyone ever gone above 800 a week ,like around a gram, with about 500 mg sus .
600 mg tes / 900 mg deca wkly, good gains rough on everyone around me cycle, and rough on me as far as Bp, that was at about 49 yrs old. Really I seem to get best gains and results from 300 mg tes/ 400 mg deca, Bp stays good and results great! So for me that higher dose really not needed. But your goals for your goals! That's just a lot of deca at a time, for me!
Ok .thnx.ive done 600 mg in the past but I didnt know if ppl did more than that.
People do way more than that and it's relatively common, especially in the competitive arena. A friend of mine who's currently prepping for a national caliber show is running around 2.5 grams of test per week, not counting tren, winny, GH and everything else.....With Deca I can't quite imagine a need for that much....
Yes, I said 2.5 grams per week.
I've never personally gone over 1.2g /wk of test but it makes me wonder where the line really is, where cost (not monetary) exceeds greater benefit. if pro and semi-pro bb'ers are stacking total compounds over 6g/wk I have to think there must be some decent benefit over say 1/3rd that much. I realize those guys and girls are at a completely different level than most of us but all things being equal some of them put on 40lbs of quality weight every year for several years in a row. Yes a lot of that is due to diet and amazing discipline but why would they take massive doses of AS if it didn't have any benefit?Quote:
Originally Posted by poppz
What top level pro put on 40lbs of muscle in a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Java Man
They use crazy amount because most of their competitors do and it's a game to see who can push it the furthest. Some have died in the process.
Few have such great genetics that they don't use crazy amounts, ie Ronnie.
They weren't born huge. I'm talking about when they first get into it. No, they do not pack on 40lbs of quality size in a year when they are already 285lbs in contest shape. I'm not going to spend the next hour finding links to verify what I said. Google it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gymfu
Hint: Kevin Levrone just did this. He went from 208 to 260 in 2009/2010. Not fat either.
Just curious where you got the 411 on Ronnie's AAS doses?Quote:
Originally Posted by gymfu
Love deca. Not that much though.
Same here but love the Avi with the snuggly pit bull moreQuote:
Originally Posted by austinite
I wont use more then 400mg ew.... normally only use like 300..Quote:
Originally Posted by poppz
but I love 1g of test ew.
Me too! Not being sarcastic here. If you have a link to ronnies AAS dosing I would love to see that. Many ppl here would find that very interesting and informative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP
Ronnie C and conservative have never been used in the same sentence before now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP
Good info for my next deca run.
The phrase "grow into you cycle" really seems to be factual information. Being the same size, I ran almost 1g of test a week and got no more results than 500mg per week. . . Well, for the positive at least since I gained some real nice backne scars on my back from it.
Same with my tren cycle, I was running close to 100mg QD for over two weeks. I gained some insane strength for the time being. But, no LBM growth or Bf% drop. Yet again, more nice backne.
lol, Ronnie probably put up 60 to 80 grand a year on gear alone. And that's not an exaggeration.
Holy god of gear...Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite
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I agree with growing into a cycle,ive done several 500mg test cycles,a 750 mg 600deca,back to 750 test ,and Im curious to 1g a week this time,if I feel no difference I,ll jump bck to 750 test.which brings me to this question of 500 mg test 1 g deca,,,,just feeling my next one thats all.thnx for replies.
No doubt. That is why I was asking dude to give me a link to his claim on Ronnie not doing crazy amounts of AAS. I'm sure Ronnie doesn't have a thread going talking openly about his cycle. The guy is a cop. Or at least he use to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite
If I told you you wouldn't believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP
Ok, maybe someone has done it one year but not year after year, and not all muscle. Gaining weight is not the same as building muscle tissue. Think about what your saying. Go to the store and pick up a one pound steak now multiply by 40! 40 lbs of muscle is an insane amount and would have to leave stretch marks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Java Man