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    decadeca is offline New Member
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    hello, I need advice...

    Hello, I bought 2 pcs Deca Organon (the big bottles) 100 mg and 20 pcs of Sustanon Organon 250 mg ( small bottles). This is my second cycle, last one I did Tren Acetat + Test Depo, last shot made May 2012. As for now, can anyone tell me how much ml should I take weekly, I am 175 cm high, 79 kg heavy... how long should I take it and how much ml ( i dont know it in mg value ) per any week, I have a trainer who is dosing me and telling me what to do...etc etc... and for first 3 weeks, I shoted 1 ml of deca, and one bottle sustanon 250, I kinda think thats a low dose, anyone can advice me how to go on further?? thanks in advance... btw diet is tip top, consuming alot of calories, proteins, carbohydrates, vitamins etc...

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    decadeca is offline New Member
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    help help help ..

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    Welcome.

    We need your age, body fat percentage, training history and any injury/medical issues. I'm guessing you mean 10ml deca vials and 1ML sustanon ampules.
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    Are you talking about real anabolic steroids ??? ...crazy mike

    You are only 18 yrs. yes ??

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    3 years training, 26 years old, never had any injuries ... 10 ml deca and 1 ml sust vials... thanks..

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    decadeca is offline New Member
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    not sure about body fat, maybe 10%, but my body is 90 % lean muscle...

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    and also have 4 years football training before bodybuilding... ofc without steroids ...

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    Ok it would be nice to know more such as how much you train and what your goals are. But anyway what was your cycle and how long and do you have an AI plugged into this or any cycle. Also what are your plans for you finishing with a PCT. ? This is also good so we can help. ...crazy mike

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    im going for mass ... and about pct its my trainer dude and everything, im not so experienced with it , I dont even remember the name of pct stuff I used after last cure, just remember it was tren acetat oxide labs 100 mg also and 10 pcs test depo 250mg (1ml vials )... coz I have bottles here.. I got around 8 Kilos from that cure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadeca View Post
    im going for mass ... and about pct its my trainer dude and everything, im not so experienced with it , I dont even remember the name of pct stuff I used after last cure, just remember it was tren acetat oxide labs 100 mg also and 10 pcs test depo 250mg (1ml vials )... coz I have bottles here.. I got around 8 Kilos from that cure...
    Ok, I caution you on what you are doing because it doesn't seem that you have a full understanding of what you are doing and you might run into serious problems such as Gyno and no getting back started again. I wouldn't just take some trainer's advice without researching it myself so I knew what he knows. Please read up on the steroid profiles, Ai / Anti - aromatase for Gyno and more about PCT. Research and then get your Q's together. Also why doesn't this trainer have your answer. No hard time but ???? ...crazy mike

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    I already read many stuff about steroids , the side effects and everything, I just need how to dosage for the next weeks.. coz I think 1 ml of deca and 1 sust is too low... help pls lol

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    lol I won't it's not a game if you aren't taking and Ai so you don't get Gyno. I have it and you don't want it. You apparently are not taking any and you might be very very sorry when you get female boob and can't get rid of them. It happens more than not. Deca is a big culprit to promoting Gyno, sooo. Layout your entire cycle so I can help with the Deca dose. Typical for me would be 400mg wk but that depends on my purpose and other stacked compounds. ...crazy mike
    Last edited by crazy mike; 06-06-2013 at 07:35 PM.

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    Since you won't tell me anything I suggest you go back to your trainer. Also if you are not aware of Gyno you don't know of the sides and how important Ai is and I can't teach you or tell you. You fail to realize that for me to tell you what you want to know I have to know what you are doing and expect. So good luck. ...crazy mike

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    Well you must of missed the part where we advise guys to use test only on their 1st cycle.And how many times we tell guys tren isnt for beginners.Not busting on you bro.But you really need to do some research and learn about wat you are doing.When you learn that Sust dont come in bottles and wat they do come in.Then I will know you are on the right track.Do you know wat a ai is? Wat do you take for pct? and how long? How many dayz after your last injection do you start your pct.

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