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    Luis777 is offline New Member
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    First Time doing a Cycle

    I'm just going to start off by giving you my stats,
    Height: 5'7"
    Age:25
    Weight: 135
    BF%: 14%
    Lifting and excercise experience: 6 years
    cycle experience: none

    I was wondering if you guys could help me out and give me some information on what I should do, I'm going to do a cycle with Dbol and Deca , using proteins and a mass gainer. and for my PCT I was thinking of using Raloxifene. I was hoping to build a lot more muscle and not gain that much fat. I have a good Solid Diet. What would you guys recommend I do?

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    Hey buddy!

    According you your stats you don't have base to cycle, wont be able to hold anything that you'll gain after cycle.

    Hit the nutrition section you DONT NEED AAS YOU NEED TO EAT!!!

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    I'm going to suggest you do an entire rethink, ok?

    first of all, I'd suggest going with testosterone only as a first cycle. the "standard" (if there is such a thing as a standard) beginner cycle is 500mg test e/c per week for 12 weeks.

    And here's why.
    Test is the mother of all steroids , something you absolutely need as a man, and should be included in every cycle. But.... you need to truly understand how this hormone affects you. You need to get familiar with the strength gains associated with it, how long it takes for it to kick in, how your body reacts with any side effects. So before you go stacking multiple compounds into a first cycle, slow down and really get to know how your body handles testosterone. If you take multiple compounds the first cycle, and something goes wrong, like you come down with ED, or your libido takes a dump, our you get gyno, or your blood pressure spikes, how are you going to know which drug is giving you the problems?

    First cycle, ALWAYS test only!

    then, after a few cycles, if you feel the need to add a second compound (you may not feel the need), then you can introduce a second item then.

    We have a saying around here that you should grow into your cycle. And the problem with many newbs is that they are operating under the principle that "more is better", and want to hit their first cycle with everything, when in reality, it is way too much for them.

    Any of this make sense?

    ---Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis777 View Post
    I'm just going to start off by giving you my stats,
    Height: 5'7"
    Age:25
    Weight: 135
    BF%: 14%
    Lifting and excercise experience: 6 years
    cycle experience: none

    I was wondering if you guys could help me out and give me some information on what I should do, I'm going to do a cycle with Dbol and Deca, using proteins and a mass gainer. and for my PCT I was thinking of using Raloxifene. I was hoping to build a lot more muscle and not gain that much fat. I have a good Solid Diet. What would you guys recommend I do?
    the fact you mention dbol and deca shows me you have no idea what you are doing and stumbled across OLD aas cycles before we knew better ( aassuming you got the idea from what some people posted at arnolds cycle or some other crap).

    first cycle: 500ish mg of teste/cyp ew for 12-14 weeks WITH an AI and PCT.

    Continue your research and you will learn why test should be base of all cycles, why oral only is bad without test and also why deca without test is not a good idea.

    you need an AI for estrogen control btw
    welcome to the forum and thanks for learning! :-)

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    also read this and it may help a bit on the AI and serm thing: A HOW TO for: SERM’s, Aromatize inhibitors, Gyno and PCT *A must read*

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    You need to learn how to eat bud. After 6 yrs of lifting experience you should weigh more than 135lbs at 5'7". I can curl that for 8 reps! Spend some time posting in the nutrition section. Seriously. Learn how to eat big to get big. Get a good handle on that and try to put on 20lbs over the next 6 months or so.

    Then come back here and learn about doing a cycle. Like said above test only for the first cycle. Now go eat!

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    Bro I have to agree with all the above.Beacuse if you cycle now.Anything you gain you will lose.That is if you gain anything at all.And you CAN GAIN WEIGHT! The guys in the diet section will show you how.You just need to lean wat to eat and how much.Good luck bro

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    Thanks guys, that actually really helps a lot. Thankyou for the information, and the advice on what i should do first. Thanks!

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    Luis the most anabolic supplement you can take right now is food. Hit that nutrition section, learn to eat, train heavy and brief and you'll be 20 lbs heavier in a year!

    Read Marcus's Diary in the lounge for some good training tips as well!

    Welcome!
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