take your opinions

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 04:06 AM

hi
23 years
179 cm
85 kg
10% bd
take your opinions in my first cycle
1-14 test prop 100mg eod
4-14 tren Acetate 100 eod
4-14 mast 100 eod
1-14 hcg 2500u every 3 days
1-14 Aromasin .5 mg ed
my pct
1-3 Aromasin .5 mg ed
1-3 hcg 2500u every 3 days
1-3 v e 1000u ed
1-3 v c 3 g ed
1-4 nolva 20 mg ed

**Bio-Active** · 06-12-2013, 04:22 AM

Aromasin is for during the cycle to manage estro. Hcg should be ran during the cycle to maintain testicular function during the administration of exogenous testosterone and nolvadex and Clomid for pct

**krugerr** · 06-12-2013, 04:25 AM

First cycle - drop everything except the Test, you dont need Mast or Tren . You seem a little light for your height, post up a picture? I think you could probably add a bit more naturally with a good diet.

10% bodyfat, is that an estimate? Or a legit bodyfat measurment?

You need to research correct HCG and AI doses, look at some of the stickies. Your PCT should be Clomid and Nolva.

**Gaspaco** · 06-12-2013, 04:35 AM

What is your cycle history?

**krugerr** · 06-12-2013, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

What is your cycle history?

Originally Posted by THE BIG

hi
23 years
179 cm
85 kg
10% bd
take your opinions in my first cycle

Damn I am on the ball today... too much caffeine!

**Gaspaco** · 06-12-2013, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by krugerr

Damn I am on the ball today... too much caffeine!

I was working very late

just woke up

**Gaspaco** · 06-12-2013, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by krugerr

First cycle - drop everything except the Test, you dont need Mast or Tren . You seem a little light for your height, post up a picture? I think you could probably add a bit more naturally with a good diet.

10% bodyfat, is that an estimate? Or a legit bodyfat measurment?

You need to research correct HCG and AI doses, look at some of the stickies. Your PCT should be Clomid and Nolva.

Cant argue!

**Back In Black** · 06-12-2013, 04:46 AM

And you don't need to run prop more than 8 weeks.

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 04:52 AM

In my home hcg does not create only Bnlk doses
ok
nolv & clomid in pct How to use it
Aromasin & hcg during the cycle
10% bodyfat measurment
are my cycle is good i want lean mass

**Gaspaco** · 06-12-2013, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by THE BIG

In my home hcg does not create only Bnlk doses
ok
nolv & clomid in pct How to use it
Aromasin & hcg during the cycle
are my cycle is good i want lean mass

Than run test only with this^^^

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

Cant argue!

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

Than run test only with this^^^

Really at your age ( a bit young) you only need the Test. I think the Tren will have too many sides you are not ready for and you will get them. You don't need Tren and the Masteron is not a strong anabolic to shine through with significance to add to the test for your first time.
You can do Test E at 500mg and Test P at 100mg ED for your firsts 6-8 week then off the Test P. This would almost be too much for a first cycle. But it will nock your socks off for your first cycle at your age and weight. Your AI and PCT as was advised to you. ...crazy mike

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 05:21 AM

Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass

**bdos** · 06-12-2013, 05:23 AM

Because you dont know what sides you'll get

**Back In Black** · 06-12-2013, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by THE BIG

Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass

That will be dictated by your diet, not the compounds you run. Trust me, I gained 15lbs lean mass on my first 8 week prop cycle.

Perhaps you need to detail your lean mass diet.

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 05:27 AM

ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by THE BIG

Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass

You don't understand. Your workout is going to give you mass with the help of what anabolic steroids do. Your diet will keep you lean your cardio will help shed fat build up. as well as water, I've done this.
I tell you by my experience you will not gain anymore lean or just mass with the Tren . The Test itself is going to fire your a$$ up enough and then the workout. You are putting to much value on more and a very strong steroid such as Tren. I venture to say you may get sick your first time. You just think this Tren w/Master is going to do more, build lean mass. Your wrong. You do and you will do what you want. But you ask for OP and that's mine. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

**bdos** · 06-12-2013, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by THE BIG

ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren

Ever heard of trensomnia? Hope you dont like sleeping or staying dry at night

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

Cant argue!

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

Than run test only with this^^^

Originally Posted by THE BIG

ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren

Ya see you don't have a clue. Read the steroid profiles. Yu need more education, this is not school. Read learn ask, put another cycle together with diet an come back. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

**Back In Black** · 06-12-2013, 05:35 AM

The best for lean mass is your DIET!!! Post it up.

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by bdos900

Ever heard of trensomnia? Hope you dont like sleeping or staying dry at night

Like being sick and your first go. Wet, I changed three always and some times four shirts a night and my sheets, wow, My wife kicked me out of he bed because of water. ...cm

**bdos** · 06-12-2013, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Like being sick and your first go. Wet, I changed three always and some times four shirts a night and my sheets, wow, My wife kicked me out of he bed because of water. ...cm

Hahah oh crazy mike im a warm sleeper already no shirt all year round and still sweat alot if i tried tren id sleep in the bath.

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bdos900

Hahah oh crazy mike im a warm sleeper already no shirt all year round and still sweat alot if i tried tren id sleep in the bath.

Ha, we keep our house around 71-72 and I sleep with no covers. Next time I should sleep in the tub, ha ha ha I like that but lets not tell Cathy ! ...cm

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 12:53 PM

Ok i run only test e 1-10 weeks
1-10 20 mg nolva
1-10 2500U HCG EVERY 3 DAYS
what is the best plane to pct

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 12:58 PM

AND HOW TO Turn THE receptors FROM active receptors TO active blinde receptors

**Back In Black** · 06-12-2013, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by THE BIG

Ok i run only test e 1-10 weeks
1-10 20 mg nolva
1-10 2500U HCG EVERY 3 DAYS
what is the best plane to pct

You really need to do some research. You would normally run test e for 12 weeks. And run an AI on cycle not nolvadex .

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 01:54 PM

sorry for that
ok
1-12 tese e 500 mg can i inject it one shot in week
1-12 aromasen 0.5 mg ed
what is the best plane to pct and how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

**crazy mike** · 06-12-2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Ya see you don't have a clue. Read the steroid profiles. Yu need more education, this is not school. Read learn ask, put another cycle together with diet an come back. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

Look Get to know what the Ai is and what it is for.
Get to know the usual way to take dosages of TEST E
Get to know the PCT 14 days after your last shot.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid ? 70/35/35/35
T\Check and verify this PCT with others but that the cyclw I recommend

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg @ 250 2x wk
Ai Arimidex .25 ED
Etc... crazy mike

OK I SEE BIB has got you listening so I'll back out now and he can tweak it.
BUT educate before medicate damnit. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 02:30 PM

thank you crazy milke and all
how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

**THE BIG** · 06-12-2013, 06:59 PM

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**THE BIG** · 06-13-2013, 09:29 AM

uuuuuuuuup

**THE BIG** · 06-13-2013, 09:29 AM

how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

**THE BIG** · 06-14-2013, 02:13 PM

upupupupup

**clarky.** · 06-14-2013, 02:26 PM

Have a read at the stickies beginner cycles and PCT stickies you will learn a lot. then once you have did that read lots of other info and learn.

**crazy mike** · 06-14-2013, 04:02 PM

How do I say this. You are making to much of what you want out of turning receptors on and off, in the fact that you don't have a good knowledge of what you are doing. I'm not giving you a hard time, but you just have to do more reading. General knowledge of what Ai is, what and how PCT works. How steroids work, what they do with in you endo- system. Your other hormones, estrogen and on and on. You've got the gest of things and some knowledge enough to know there is more so you ask., but I believe you need more basic info. Much is on this site but you can Google a lot of information just by asking it.
So if I may say I think that that's what people are saying, I guess. Good luck. ...crazy mike