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    take your opinions

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    take your opinions in my first cycle
    1-14 test prop 100mg eod
    4-14 tren Acetate 100 eod
    4-14 mast 100 eod
    1-14 hcg 2500u every 3 days
    1-14 Aromasin .5 mg ed
    my pct
    1-3 Aromasin .5 mg ed
    1-3 hcg 2500u every 3 days
    1-3 v e 1000u ed
    1-3 v c 3 g ed
    1-4 nolva 20 mg ed

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    Aromasin is for during the cycle to manage estro. Hcg should be ran during the cycle to maintain testicular function during the administration of exogenous testosterone and nolvadex and Clomid for pct
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    First cycle - drop everything except the Test, you dont need Mast or Tren . You seem a little light for your height, post up a picture? I think you could probably add a bit more naturally with a good diet.

    10% bodyfat, is that an estimate? Or a legit bodyfat measurment?

    You need to research correct HCG and AI doses, look at some of the stickies. Your PCT should be Clomid and Nolva.

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    What is your cycle history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    What is your cycle history?
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    hi
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    take your opinions in my first cycle
    Damn I am on the ball today... too much caffeine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr

    Damn I am on the ball today... too much caffeine!
    I was working very late just woke up

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr
    First cycle - drop everything except the Test, you dont need Mast or Tren . You seem a little light for your height, post up a picture? I think you could probably add a bit more naturally with a good diet.

    10% bodyfat, is that an estimate? Or a legit bodyfat measurment?

    You need to research correct HCG and AI doses, look at some of the stickies. Your PCT should be Clomid and Nolva.
    Cant argue!

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    And you don't need to run prop more than 8 weeks.
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    In my home hcg does not create only Bnlk doses
    ok
    nolv & clomid in pct How to use it
    Aromasin & hcg during the cycle
    10% bodyfat measurment
    are my cycle is good i want lean mass

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG
    In my home hcg does not create only Bnlk doses
    ok
    nolv & clomid in pct How to use it
    Aromasin & hcg during the cycle
    are my cycle is good i want lean mass
    Than run test only with this^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Cant argue!
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    Than run test only with this^^^
    Really at your age ( a bit young) you only need the Test. I think the Tren will have too many sides you are not ready for and you will get them. You don't need Tren and the Masteron is not a strong anabolic to shine through with significance to add to the test for your first time.
    You can do Test E at 500mg and Test P at 100mg ED for your firsts 6-8 week then off the Test P. This would almost be too much for a first cycle. But it will nock your socks off for your first cycle at your age and weight. Your AI and PCT as was advised to you. ...crazy mike

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    Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass

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    Because you dont know what sides you'll get

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG
    Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass
    That will be dictated by your diet, not the compounds you run. Trust me, I gained 15lbs lean mass on my first 8 week prop cycle.

    Perhaps you need to detail your lean mass diet.
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    ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG View Post
    Why i want to add tren & mast becouse i want lean mass
    You don't understand. Your workout is going to give you mass with the help of what anabolic steroids do. Your diet will keep you lean your cardio will help shed fat build up. as well as water, I've done this.
    I tell you by my experience you will not gain anymore lean or just mass with the Tren . The Test itself is going to fire your a$$ up enough and then the workout. You are putting to much value on more and a very strong steroid such as Tren. I venture to say you may get sick your first time. You just think this Tren w/Master is going to do more, build lean mass. Your wrong. You do and you will do what you want. But you ask for OP and that's mine. …crazy mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG View Post
    ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren
    Ever heard of trensomnia? Hope you dont like sleeping or staying dry at night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Cant argue!
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    Than run test only with this^^^
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    ok i run only test p or test e what is the best for lean mass and what is the sides effect for tren
    Ya see you don't have a clue. Read the steroid profiles. Yu need more education, this is not school. Read learn ask, put another cycle together with diet an come back. …crazy mike
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    The best for lean mass is your DIET!!! Post it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900 View Post
    Ever heard of trensomnia? Hope you dont like sleeping or staying dry at night
    Like being sick and your first go. Wet, I changed three always and some times four shirts a night and my sheets, wow, My wife kicked me out of he bed because of water. ...cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    Like being sick and your first go. Wet, I changed three always and some times four shirts a night and my sheets, wow, My wife kicked me out of he bed because of water. ...cm
    Hahah oh crazy mike im a warm sleeper already no shirt all year round and still sweat alot if i tried tren id sleep in the bath.

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    Hahah oh crazy mike im a warm sleeper already no shirt all year round and still sweat alot if i tried tren id sleep in the bath.
    Ha, we keep our house around 71-72 and I sleep with no covers. Next time I should sleep in the tub, ha ha ha I like that but lets not tell Cathy ! ...cm

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    Ok i run only test e 1-10 weeks
    1-10 20 mg nolva
    1-10 2500U HCG EVERY 3 DAYS
    what is the best plane to pct

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    AND HOW TO Turn THE receptors FROM active receptors TO active blinde receptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG
    Ok i run only test e 1-10 weeks
    1-10 20 mg nolva
    1-10 2500U HCG EVERY 3 DAYS
    what is the best plane to pct
    You really need to do some research. You would normally run test e for 12 weeks. And run an AI on cycle not nolvadex .
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    sorry for that
    ok
    1-12 tese e 500 mg can i inject it one shot in week
    1-12 aromasen 0.5 mg ed
    what is the best plane to pct and how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    Ya see you don't have a clue. Read the steroid profiles. Yu need more education, this is not school. Read learn ask, put another cycle together with diet an come back. …crazy mike
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    Look Get to know what the Ai is and what it is for.
    Get to know the usual way to take dosages of TEST E
    Get to know the PCT 14 days after your last shot.
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid ? 70/35/35/35
    T\Check and verify this PCT with others but that the cyclw I recommend

    wk 1-12 Test E 500mg @ 250 2x wk
    Ai Arimidex .25 ED
    Etc... crazy mike

    OK I SEE BIB has got you listening so I'll back out now and he can tweak it.
    BUT educate before medicate damnit. …crazy mike
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    Last edited by crazy mike; 06-12-2013 at 02:12 PM.

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    thank you crazy milke and all
    how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

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    uuuuuuuuuuup

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    uuuuuuuuup

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    how to turn the receptors from active receptors to active blinde receptors

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    Have a read at the stickies beginner cycles and PCT stickies you will learn a lot. then once you have did that read lots of other info and learn.

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    How do I say this. You are making to much of what you want out of turning receptors on and off, in the fact that you don't have a good knowledge of what you are doing. I'm not giving you a hard time, but you just have to do more reading. General knowledge of what Ai is, what and how PCT works. How steroids work, what they do with in you endo- system. Your other hormones, estrogen and on and on. You've got the gest of things and some knowledge enough to know there is more so you ask., but I believe you need more basic info. Much is on this site but you can Google a lot of information just by asking it.
    So if I may say I think that that's what people are saying, I guess. Good luck. ...crazy mike
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