My Tren Cycle layout

**Rv8G30** · 06-12-2013, 07:32 PM

29 years old, 5'7 180lbs, 16% bf.
Previous cycles:
1 - Test E 500mg wk for 12 wks. Exemestane & pct was nolva & clomid.

2 - Same as first cycle but threw in var at 100mg a day for 3 weeks ran out and couldnt get more quick enough. Loved the var on the 3rd week! Same ai and pct.

Proposed cycle:

Test E 2x a week 1-12 - debating between a TRT dose or my normal 500mg a week. Either way, test will be my base.

Tren A eod - 350mg a week 4 - 12. Is this enough Tren?

Mast eod - No idea how much to run or how long. Ive seen so many different opinions on it. I was thinking 350mg a week for the last 4 or 6 weeks?

Caber - 1mg a week

Exemestane - dose depends how I run the test.

PCT - Same as I did on my previous cycles. Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20.

Goals - I would like to get down to 12% bf so this will be a cutting / recomp type cycle. Diet will determine this obviously. I know I can achieve this naturally but my goal for this cycle is to keep as much mass as possible while losing bf. Assuming my diet is on point is this goal realistic? Dropping 4 to 6% bf and maintaining most of my muscle mass? Thanks in advance for any advice on this cycle.

Mast -

**Lunk1** · 06-12-2013, 07:38 PM

I would suggest the tren for the last 8 weeks if you insist on using a long estered test

Mast E or P? Either way I wouldn't bother at 16%

**OnTheSauce** · 06-12-2013, 07:50 PM

save the mast for next tren run. use the tren by itself first time. try your same test dose with the tren this go around. next time try low test and see which you like best. its a personal preference thing. 350 is plenty for first run.

**Rv8G30** · 06-12-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I would suggest the tren for the last 8 weeks if you insist on using a long estered test

Mast E or P? Either way I wouldn't bother at 16%

Only reason I picked test e is because I have so much on hand. Chose tren a so I can bail quick if I need to. Its mast p. Not worth it at all? Thought it might help keep bloat down.

**Rv8G30** · 06-12-2013, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

save the mast for next tren run. use the tren by itself first time. try your same test dose with the tren this go around. next time try low test and see which you like best. its a personal preference thing. 350 is plenty for first run.

Ok Ill consider this. 500mg test 350 tren . Tren last 8 weeks so test has time to kick in.

**spiderman87** · 06-12-2013, 08:02 PM

I'd reduce Test Down to half that. Enough to keep your test level up and let tren do its thing...Tren is where your going to cut. Test E will add water, keep it low as possible. I'd run:
Test E 300mg 1-12
Tren A 350mg 4-12

Same AI and PCT. Just my opinion

**bstacked** · 06-12-2013, 08:03 PM

Mast will not bloat you

**Lunk1** · 06-12-2013, 08:10 PM

God..why do all these myths keep popping up in every tren related thread?

Test E does not bloat you. High estrogen levels can cause you to retain water. Like Patrick said (many ways to skin this cat). Some like test higher, lower and equal. Pick one and try it.

**drake4243** · 06-12-2013, 08:19 PM

First no way would i touch tren without HCG at least 250iu twice a week. MON WED FRI is what i do for HCG when i am on tren 250iu weeks 1 through 2 days before pct starts. i would not do this cycle without it. Then i would run the tren for 8 at least. Also mast is the best i am on it now it will probally help a ton with your tren sides and if you have the green i would run it 150mg eod weeks 1 through 2 days before your pct starts.

**Lunk1** · 06-12-2013, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by drake4243

First no way would i touch tren without HCG at least 250iu twice a week. MON WED FRI is what i do for HCG when i am on tren 250iu weeks 1 through 2 days before pct starts. i would not do this cycle without it. Then i would run the tren for 8 at least. Also mast is the best i am on it now it will probally help a ton with your tren sides and if you have the green i would run it 150mg eod weeks 1 through 2 days before your pct starts.

How is Mast helping with your sides.

**OnTheSauce** · 06-12-2013, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

How is Mast helping with your sides.

Well it might help with libido if limp dick is a normal side for him

**Lunk1** · 06-12-2013, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

Well it might help with libido if limp dick is a normal side for him

As long as the test is there, E2 is controlled..this SHOULDNT be an issue. Now if you said it may further increase libido..perhaps. Although mine is through the god damn roof on tren . Dangerously high lol.