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After being in A&E for 8 hours then they put me on a wad and planned to keep me in fo a few days i decided to discharge myself. I posted up the other day about protein being found in my urine they done bloods in the hospital and found 4000 CK in my blood which said that it could lead to kidney failure...what could be causing it, all they said to me was to come off the aas and stop taking in loads of protein
Damn man. Sorry to hear that, but maybe you should have stayed there and found out...Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer08
^^^ this
All they said they were going to do is keep rechecking it and blamed the reading on what i am using and a high protein diet
Just out if interest how much protein do you consume a day? Did you have any side effects?
Im taking in around 220g per and im 16st 11lbs...no side effects at all i went in for chest pain which tuned out to be muscle related. All the tests done on my heart, liver and kidneys were fine just that enzyme high
Did they hook u up to IV? My cpk was very high at one point. Had kidney stones. Doc called me told me to go to ER right away and get two-three bags of IV in me.
Cpk I believe is what's rises also when u have a heart attack man. Bad choice of leaving IMO.
The only thing they put in the iv was a 1000ml of fluid then took me off it...they done 2 heart traces which were fine, the blood test for the heart was fine and my b.p was fine
They even x-rayed the heart to check if it was enlarged but was normal sized
CK is raised when there is muscle damage. CKMB is a more specific marker for heart muscle damage.
all the waste products from the muscle damage will put stress on your kidneys. with iv infusion/hydration, the stress on your kidneys can be reduced a little.
They didn't know themselves exactly why it was high like i said just blamed AAS and a high protein diet...befoe i left the doctor told me to go to my g.p in 2 days and have another test run to see what the results come in like
the level of CK tells you a little of the degree of the muscle damage. it doesn't tell you where or why you're having it.
So if they were satisfied with the tests they had done for the heart then were else could it be coming from ? They wouldn't be that high from muscle damage from training would theyQuote:
Originally Posted by AD
CKMB is specific to heart muscle. CK is non-specific, which means all muscles, arms, legs, back...
your level is rather high. i don't think its safe to assume its from training.
So if they said the heart one was fine then that would be the CKMB the were refering to...so i can't understand why the CK is so high
from the rest of your muscles, excluding heart and intestines.
Ive also heard of high protein bein bad for you,
You went AMA? My man. haha... nah i'm just kidding as i did it once once too.
If you didn't have enough protein in your blood, the vein would just shut down when iv was injected. I know all about it.
Best to you.
Is there any way of flushing the CK out of the system ? Would the var or arimidex have anything to do with it, ive never had readings like this in test enth
Thats what the iv fluid is doing. Hows your pee? Color? Volume? Pain?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer08
They took me off the iv after 1000ml i discharged myself around 3 hours after that. My urine is dark but no painQuote:
Originally Posted by AD
Any muscle pain anywhere? Back, thigh?
Pee volume is good?
Nothing much you can do now except to keep well hydrated. Drink fluid constantly till your pee is clear. Hopefully its a one-off event and not an on-going process. Check your ck level again in a day or 2.
Lower back and neck pain from training related injuries, iv'e had the lower back problem since i was 16 I am getting some pain around the kidney area though which im not certain why. Volume seems to be good, just been for my second trip to the toilet since waking up a hour ago and its gone from really dark to light yellow.
It might be clearing up. Continue force drinking and check labs soon.
But seriously, i think it was a rather scary thing you did. To discharge yourself against medical advice and come to an online forum for "treatment" instead. I dont know what sort of hospital you went to but i want to believe that you can get better care there than here. I hope you get lucky and this actually clears up quickly. But if i were you i wouldn't be so brave. Just my opinion. Get well soon :)
Like i stated all they were going to do is leave me laying there and check my bloods in the morning and continue to do that till they were normal...before i discharged myself i spoke to the doctor and he said he didn't really want to keep me in there and to just go back if things get worse. The only difference between being home and there is the blood work they could of done, they couldn't even pin point the cause of the high levels the health system in the u.k is crapQuote:
Originally Posted by AD
You might think they weren't doing much but they were. Doing blood work is hoe they find out what's going on inside you. Hell, they look inside you and tell you. I know it's frustrating but they are doc's and nurses and they know what they are doing or they wouldn't have their jobs. I went AMA once and regretted it cause i still hurting when i got home. I got over it, luckily, but never again. I'll stay in the damn hospital till doc says all blood work looks good and time to go home.
I feel where hes coming from. It is your health but when Dr.s don't know whats causing symptoms, they run test after test hoping to find an answer. They take there time, often don't communicate between shifts, and your left waiting in the meantime. I would of giving them some blood then been out. Hospitals suck...You know your body better than anyone. If anything feels off in next couple days, don't mess around.
Little update...been to the docs today they contacted the hospital and the hospital had lost all my notes and blood results thats's what i mean by they are useless over here. The doctor ran more bloods and said they will be back by wednesday and she would contact me straight away if they are abnormal. She done my b.p and that was good, i feel fine so hopefully the bloods are good
urine colour and volume?
Considering i drank 9ltrs of water over a 12 hours yesterday i never went to the toilet as much as i should of and i can't seem to get my urine completely clear...usually after that amount its the same colour as the water and id be living in the toilet
may take a few days.
If the bloods do come back normal id love to know what caused it...iv'e cut the var and all my supps at the moment. Im due test enth today and my arimidex do i just cut it all now ??
what doses are you using?
500mg test enth week, 50mg var day, 0.5mg adex eod
i think you're slowly recovering, so it probably won't be too dangerous to continue with the testE and adex.
Ill continue with them 2 drop the var and take this week off the gym, im due a break aint had one in 8 months
keep a close eye on your pee (color and volume). check bloodwork frequently. don't hesitate to stop everything at the first sign of trouble.
Will do there's no way the enth could be causing the ck levels to raise is there ? Sorry for all the questions but im getting more answers and sense on here than i did in the hospital
I can only answer to the best of my knowledge (which isn't much). Since you're running it at a sensible dose, i think the chances of it being the culprit is low.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer08