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    if I go to the ER???

    And I have to tell them what im injecting can I go to jail or well I ?

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    No you will not go to jail.

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    Are you planning to get injured soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84 View Post
    And I have to tell them what im injecting can I go to jail or well I ?
    Why do you need the ER?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Why do you need the ER?
    Because you will crush him

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Why do you need the ER?
    This s*** is crazy I don't know if I'm allergic or not but I tell you this it can't be an infection because I'm very sterile but I've been using test 350 with 4 different blends of test and I don't know if its the old and the test I'm allergic to the my muscles don't like that s***.... I've been rotating between the deltoids and they hurt for like 3 days then is very better but for the last two days both of them are very tight and warm don't hurt that bad but if I hope both of my arms up they can to do but I think that may do because of how tight they are no redness or anything like that just wanted to touch in very tight

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84 View Post

    This s*** is crazy I don't know if I'm allergic or not but I tell you this it can't be an infection because I'm very sterile but I've been using test 350 with 4 different blends of test and I don't know if its the old and the test I'm allergic to the my muscles don't like that s***.... I've been rotating between the deltoids and they hurt for like 3 days then is very better but for the last two days both of them are very tight and warm don't hurt that bad but if I hope both of my arms up they can to do but I think that may do because of how tight they are no redness or anything like that just wanted to touch in very tight
    Oil.... not old

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Why do you need the ER?
    I guess just to be safe also as I described below me and my brother shoot the same day the same test and he doesn't have this effect does it bother him whatsoever

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    Are you in the US? Have insurance? ER is going to cost you an arm & a leg. Just go to a clinic tomorrow. Just tell them you got a b12 shot and you think it's infected.

    3 days is a bit soon, usually around day 4 or 5 the swelling and discomfort goes down if it's just muscle irritation.
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    blends tend to cause more PIP than single esters..

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    like aus said, give it a few more days.. pain should go away... until your next pin...

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    ^^ what austinite said. My delts hurt for 3-4 days pretty good at the beginning of the cycle. But it goes away after a few pins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Are you in the US? Have insurance? ER is going to cost you an arm & a leg. Just go to a clinic tomorrow. Just tell them you got a b12 shot and you think it's infected.

    3 days is a bit soon, usually around day 4 or 5 the swelling and discomfort goes down if it's just muscle irritation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    ^^ what austinite said. My delts hurt for 3-4 days pretty good at the beginning of the cycle. But it goes away after a few pins.
    my right deltoid a shot previous before the left did go away 3 to 4 days and then I shot the other one and it got sore and I worked my shoulders out really good and now both of them are hurting again just really tight not really hurting and warm to the touch

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    ^^ what austinite said. My delts hurt for 3-4 days pretty good at the beginning of the cycle. But it goes away after a few pins.
    And I'm on my fourth week of sending and its they still get store no matter what but what kills me is my brother and them are not getting this and we're all using the same set of course different needles and syringes and are always very sanitary

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    Do you rotate sites other than delts? And how often are you hitting the same muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    blends tend to cause more PIP than single esters..
    that's what I'm thinking buddy I think maybe my muscles just can't take the blend as all of us are different can I switch to a single test in the middle in the middle of my cycle

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    I would stay the course man, no need to be switching things up in the middle unless its absolutely necessary. Pain is part of the game it will deaden as time goes on. I enjoy it, yea it hurts but every time it causes pain it reminds me that I'm on. And that I should go back to the gym instead of whining lol

    Edit: I'm not calling you out for whining haha. It's what I tell myself too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    Do you rotate sites other than delts? And how often are you hitting the same muscle
    Nope lol just deltoid left then right then back to left and so on I'm thinking of stopping for 2 weeks should be OK until I get test cyp in ... ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    I would stay the course man, no need to be switching things up in the middle unless its absolutely necessary. Pain is part of the game it will deaden as time goes on. I enjoy it, yea it hurts but every time it causes pain it reminds me that I'm on. And that I should go back to the gym instead of whining lol
    So this doesn't sound like an infection problem to you more just I have bad pip ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn
    ^^ what austinite said. My delts hurt for 3-4 days pretty good at the beginning of the cycle. But it goes away after a few pins.
    Yeah my delta are used to it after 3rd injecton completely painless
    I've heard stories of T400 flute injections prohibiting people from sitting down

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84 View Post
    that's what I'm thinking buddy I think maybe my muscles just can't take the blend as all of us are different can I switch to a single test in the middle in the middle of my cycle
    you can switch esters no problem.. whats your cycle look like?

    and whats in the blend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84

    that's what i'm thinking buddy i think maybe my muscles just can't take the blend as all of us are different can i switch to a single test in the middle in the middle of my cycle
    ffs this is the third thread you are asking for this advice in!!!!!!!!
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    Obama care takes effect in 2014 and is a program to buy group insurance through and central buying consortium. Either you have personal insurance or not currently. ER will cost a fortune use a clinic as advised. A you can't just keep slamming the delts in the same area. Rotation quads glutes Bi tri chest etc

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    I agree, start including at least one other group of muscles to pin. Glutes are painless and can hold quite a bit of oil. Quads aren't too bad either

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post

    you can switch esters no problem.. whats your cycle look like?

    and whats in the blend?
    Test decanoate 140mg
    Test phenylpropionate 84 mg
    Test p 42mg
    Test isocapproate 84mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    I agree, start including at least one other group of muscles to pin. Glutes are painless and can hold quite a bit of oil. Quads aren't too bad either
    Thanks bro a lot I sure imma go in the ass cheek today ill let everyone know how it gos

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    That's what we're here for! If nothing else it'll at least give you some time to heal up your pained delts and see if its the muscle group that is the problem or the gear itself. Keep us updated and good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84 View Post
    Test decanoate 140mg
    Test phenylpropionate 84 mg
    Test p 42mg
    Test isocapproate 84mg
    I just caught this thread. I tell you by my experience it is that sh!t blend. The blends, by me, are crap. They usually are made to be very potent so something will kick, Bullsh!t it's crap.

    If you want to continue with little to no PIP, you must dilute each injection such as .5 cc/ml with .5 cc/ml another compound such as deca or a straight Cyp of Enanthate . That will reduce PIP. That's my experience. You couldn't give those blends to me. ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn
    I would stay the course man, no need to be switching things up in the middle unless its absolutely necessary. Pain is part of the game it will deaden as time goes on. I enjoy it, yea it hurts but every time it causes pain it reminds me that I'm on. And that I should go back to the gym instead of whining lol

    Edit: I'm not calling you out for whining haha. It's what I tell myself too
    PIP does not have to be a part of the game. That's the most asinine thing I've heard today. A close second would be that it'll get better. He's 4 weeks into it, that's at least 4 injections in each delt more then likely. It's not muscle trauma, it's poorly constructed gear.

    Blends are NOT my favorite, I have yet to see a good use for anything beyond two esters when dealing with test. And I wouldn't do it in a blend.

    OP, I'd most definitely switch to a single ester testosterone . Preferably one with a low BA concentration.

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    I used a blend for my first cycle and I wouldn't do so again. It's just easier to control a single ester IMO.

    And I'm sorry you feel my personal experiences are asinine Tron. Although I'm sure you have more experience than me, you're most certainly the only person I've ever met that has cycled that believes that PIP isn't a part of every cycle to some degree.
    I'm not claiming it will hurt every time, or that all labs are created equal, but as I mentioned earlier its something that's usually there at the beginning of cycles and fades quickly.
    I'd love to know what lab you are a fan of where PIP is this magical made up bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn
    I used a blend for my first cycle and I wouldn't do so again. It's just easier to control a single ester IMO.

    And I'm sorry you feel my personal experiences are asinine Tron. Although I'm sure you have more experience than me, you're most certainly the only person I've ever met that has cycled that believes that PIP isn't a part of every cycle to some degree.
    I'm not claiming it will hurt every time, or that all labs are created equal, but as I mentioned earlier its something that's usually there at the beginning of cycles and fades quickly.
    I'd love to know what lab you are a fan of where PIP is this magical made up bunch of nonsense
    Eating is a part of the game, lifting is a part of the game, discipline is part of the game. PIP should be a rare occurrence. I never said it won't happen, but it doesn't have to happen. The only time I have ever gotten PIP was shit gear. And if its shit gear, it will not go away. Either the gear is not sterile, too much BA or some recipe disaster.

    Lab? I don't use labs anymore because u gamble getting shit gear. I make my own. And I have injected probably close to 400mL of my own gear and have yet to get any PIP. Only time oven get sore is when I inject 4mL into my delts.

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    And I never said ur personal experiences are asinine, however your comments are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Eating is a part of the game, lifting is a part of the game, discipline is part of the game. PIP should be a rare occurrence. I never said it won't happen, but it doesn't have to happen. The only time I have ever gotten PIP was shit gear. And if its shit gear, it will not go away. Either the gear is not sterile, too much BA or some recipe disaster.

    Lab? I don't use labs anymore because u gamble getting shit gear. I make my own. And I have injected probably close to 400mL of my own gear and have yet to get any PIP. Only time oven get sore is when I inject 4mL into my delts.
    I kind of assumed you home brewed lol. I can tell you from personal experience, and from experience of the several close friends I have that cycle, that the first few injections into each muscle group have always caused some form of pain localized to the injection site.
    Maybe we have a different definition of PIP, but to me it seems that pain or discomfort due directly to, and restricted to the area of, an injection seems to fit the bill for me.
    I haven't been a part of the lifestyle long enough, nor do I have the time or resources to home brew so I have to rely on labs. I only know personally of 3 labs and 2 sources that have been used by myself and others and we all have come to the same conclusion that a minor and nagging discomfort for the first several pins in each muscle group is a part of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    And I never said ur personal experiences are asinine, however your comments are.
    I give comments and advice directly from personal experience so it's merely splitting hairs at that point. But to each his own. Hopefully I can one day be able to supervise and handle everything I put in myself personally. And at that point ill be able to autoclave my gear to death or whatever it is that helps eliminate PIP. I don't have the experience or knowledge in that department at all so I can't really argue that

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    Well OP I guess one thing you can learn here is that the blends are not good. There is no reason for them. I think they are counter productive. Good luck ...crazy mike

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    Good luck OP! My first few weeks of injections were hellish, but it does get better. Sure, I still get a bit of pip, but nothing debilitating anymore.
    Start pinning your ventro glutes, you'll soon wish that that was where ya started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post

    I just caught this thread. I tell you by my experience it is that sh!t blend. The blends, by me, are crap. They usually are made to be very potent so something will kick, Bullsh!t it's crap.

    If you want to continue with little to no PIP, you must dilute each injection such as .5 cc/ml with .5 cc/ml another compound such as deca or a straight Cyp of Enanthate. That will reduce PIP. That's my experience. You couldn't give those blends to me. ...crazy mike
    Yeah imma run there straight cyp and get off the blend

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84

    Yeah imma run there straight cyp and get off the blend
    If you don't mind pinning cyp is a good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulktser84 View Post
    Yeah imma run there straight cyp and get off the blend
    Thank you. Really you will be happier. I will add, to the answer about ER and the Cops. They don't give a sh!t and they will not call them. Relax about that. If you had tried to end it all, I will tell you exactly what will happen blow by blow, lol now. Oh you can go with Enanthate , you know that Good luck man. ...crazy mike

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