test,eq,+anavar cycle 1 time vet

About 5 months ago i finished a cycle of test cyp 250, and eq 200 (all geneza brand) I did 250mg of test and 200mg of eq one shot every 7-10 days, I used clomid and nolvadex some arimidex when cycling off and everything was successfull great results.

I was thinking of doing the same cycle again I just was thinking of adding anavar to the end of the cycle for the last 12 weeks to cut up, and I was also planning to run the eq and test 20 plus weeks till all the gear is finished, anyone have any expierience with this cycle who could provide some tips I like running cycles a little light as I prefer not to be one gigantic steroid as I am not trying to look like a bodybuilder I would rather not be so bulky

and does anyone have expierience with this same cycle but instead of anavar incorporate masteron or proviron?

I'm confused. Let me make sure I understand...

You injected 250mg of Test and 200mg of EQ once every 7 to 10 days, and you had success? How long did you cycle that or and can you please share your results from that cycle?

At 22 yrs old !!

I am actually 23 now

I cycled it from aug 3 of 2012 to febuary 3rd of 2013 so about 6 months, and yes fantastic results, I gained alot of lean muscle mass and everything tightened up and fat loss was pretty incredible as well, its just what i needed to get over a plateau in my training

does anyone have expierience with this cycle and anavar?

I blew out my knee kickboxing and my instructor said it would be a good cycle to run, I was having problems with balance and one leg had more strength than the other and my right leg was supporting my entire body, I had problems with things like getting up out of a chair, turning corners losing my balance

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Originally Posted by corkay128

I am actually 23 now

I cycled it from aug 3 of 2012 to febuary 3rd of 2013 so about 6 months, and yes fantastic results, I gained alot of lean muscle mass and everything tightened up and fat loss was pretty incredible as well, its just what i needed to get over a plateau in my training

does anyone have expierience with this cycle and anavar?

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I don't know man. I'm not sure why you won't give us numbers... that's the lowest dosed cycle I've ever seen, and injection frequency is odd and counter productive. How much is "A LOT OF LEAN MASS" ? The numbers are not adding up for me. Unless you mean something like 6 lbs, which I understand in 6 months. There's nothing in that protocol that would cause a human body to develop "a lot of lean mass", just nothing. I'm so incredibly confused and mind boggled here. Sorry for the rant.

Anyway, back to topic, EQ is worthless, so i wouldn't use it. Anavar is good as a finishing compound. Have you done any blood work after your last cycle? Of so, can you share the results?

well I didnt track the results I just took it so I could start training again as my knee was swolen and the eq helped it heal faster like nothing I have ever expierienced, and no blood work all I can say is by the second week of pct my balls dropped then after that I experienced some rebound but thats all, now I wanna cycle back on in a few months I am just planning for now, how much bodyfat will you lose with anavar? considering diet is clean

p.s. why do you say eq is worthless?

Ok. I guess we're not getting anywhere here because you don't know what "a lot of mass" is. Not even an estimate? Give or take 10 bs? Doesnt make sense man, you have to see this from my shoes. You're claiming some impossible results. Well, impossible until you define a lot.

EQ sucks Because it does nothing for gains. Just makes you hungry, but worst of all, it increases RBC levels at an alarming rate. You should consider holding off on cycling anything until you get some blood work. My crystal ball says that your RBC and Hematocrit are through the roof. More than likely you will need to donate blood or do double red cells asap. Your blood is going to turn into cement if you continue with this.

i would say about 10lbs of mass, but to me it seems like alot cuz I was injured and on disability for like 4 months

It definetly makes you hungry, but I also will say it made everything really tight and I gained lean mass with it and i kept virtually everything, and alot of people in my gym were making comments like wow you put on alot of size (and they werent commenting on water weight either)

as far as the rbcc I was aware of that however I got bloodwork done for something else and everything checked back fine, I even told the doctor I used steroids and he didnt seem alarmed at all but wasnt thrilled about it either

ok, so you can take the stuff listed and get some results, that may be fantastic for you.

but the idea of asking and getting advise is to tap in to others knowledge...

in saying that there is a lot missing here..

age (23), weight, goals, diet, health issues, type of work outs you do... you get the point.

the idea is to get the most out of what you are taking...

your diet has to be at least 80%(perferable 90% +) correct for you goals ( bulking or cutting exc)

your work out has to be 100% correct for your goals

and your age isnt really good or bad at 23 pluse... but you still have alot of natural test you are suppressing with a steroid cycle (at your age)

so the point is - of course you saw results before... do the same cycle and good luck or ask your question and excpet the feed back

now as for that you took in my op:

EQ - research it, most people suggest taking much more a week that what you did, so i am pretty sure you got no results from that product. but i do know people (one in particuar) that loves the stuff and swears buy it! me personally its a waste for me to take that much product ($$$) for the results it yeilds.

test - many people take HRT at just below the number a week, so the 250 mgs you were taking was low for a "real cycle" but prob a good thing that it was your first and you could see how you responded. most people suggest that you take 400 mgs to 800 mgs a week of test c or e... with 2 injections a week. (200 - 400 mgs first shot lets say monday, and 200 - 400 mgs second shot lets say thursday or friday)

as for the anavar - why? couldnt come close to answer that with out knowing most of what i listed is missing above...

and for the record 400 - 800 mgs of test a week by it self is a pretty good cycle if you eat correctly for you goals, and sucks terrible if you eat poorly for your goals... what is the common denominator?

EAT! 80% of how you and i look is not what cycle we are on, or what cardio we do... it is what we eat! and does the food that enters our mouth match up and inline with our goals?

ok, well I basically supplemented with the steroid just to improve my knee issue, and then whilst being on it and seeing myself in the mirror i was like wow this stuff is pretty cool hence why I would like to do another cycle after about 6 months from now

I am 5'10 and about 200 lbs right now, I basically want to get lean and shredded and have more like a fighter's build

I wanna use anavar to cut, Id rather use masteron but I fear the hair loss aspect as I am 23 still in college and not trying to look like an old man not saying i look old now but id like to maintain looking younger who wants to get old really

what type of training do you suggest I have lifted weights since I was 17 but was always more like a bodybuilder routine sets and reps if you could considering my goals, and what type of diet do you suggest

I kept the dose low because I was in fear of side effects and plus I had never used straight juice b4 just prohormones, I really would like to stick to test,eq, and something mild like an anavar or a primo just to cut toward the end of a cycle, I wanna stay away from compounds like tren my buddy used tren ace and said he became suicidal

anyone have any expierience with masteron or anavar? and how is the hair loss with masteron i know its different with everyone but does anyone have any input thanks!

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Originally Posted by corkay128

I am 5'10 and about 200 lbs right now, I basically want to get lean and shredded and have more like a fighter's build

I wanna use anavar to cut,

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You use proper NUTRITION to lean out or cut, not anavar, not masteron, not Testosterone. Period!
If you cannot lean out without AAS, then you cannot lean out WITH AAS either. Learn 2 eat, and dont say you already know this, because then you would not be asking about using Anavar to cut.

Have a look at my avatar. 256lbs to that in just over a year, and I was unable to train for most of that time. So all of that was just through diet. And my diet was not even spot on. It was also done without AAS.

You say you do NOT want a "steroid" look and do NOT want to get too big. Don't use steroids then..

Seriously, a "fighter look" is quite easily achievable with diet and training alone, if by fighter look you mean lean and fairly muscular.
First you cut, then you just gear your training and diet towards maximizing hypertrophy.

Most fighters arent looking to be huge, they want strength and endurance with minimum bodyweight, so they training they do is more focused on those goals.
You can easily LOOK like an MMA fighter, but you wont have their strength or stamina.


Your previous cycle was not exactly a good one, timing between shots 7-10 days is no good, and 200 Test with 250 EQ is not brilliant either. You dont want to get too big, fine, you still do a proper cycle, only a shorter one. Not a half-arsed 6 month pointless cycle.

When you plateu or get stuck because of lack of knowledge, then AAS is not the answer. More knowledge is the answer.
When you know how to eat, when you know what kind of training you respond best to, when you get stuck because your genetics will not allow you to continue growing, THEN AAS is a viable option.



Hit the nutrition section to get help with the diet, and cut down first. Thats step #1. When you're closing in on 10%bf, get back to us with new stats and goals.

/Maf

dude, I know plenty of fighters who juice with compounds like eq test and anavar even deca, their protocol is usually 1cc of each every sunday so I followed the same one as i was looking to rehab my knee which was busted up from and injury,

my buddy did a cycle of test 300 and deca 300 and he took 1 cc of each he too only stuck himself every sunday

if you think about it a person on trt is doing about 200mg of test every 2 weeks and an aids patient is getting about 100mg of deca every 2 weeks, whats the difference if someone follows the same protocol with a different goal in mind

He was on the juice to heal his knee; not for building muscle, the muscle was a side effect.

The difference is that the Sides/Benefit ratio is skewed towards the "sides" side.

Test E should preferably be shot 2x per week, not every 10 days, or every 14 days.
Are you an AIDS patient? no? so why follow an AIDS treatment protocol??

Dude, I'm not saying fighters dont Juice, I'm saying that their training is not geared towards building a lot of musclemass (in most cases) and thus, a visual physique like theirs is easily achievable through proper training and diet!

Lets break this down:
#1 You are on the young side to be using in the first place, doing a cycle *might* have a very negative impact on your HPTA. Regardless of how well you recovered last time. Have you had bloodwork done before and after to see that you even are fully recovered btw?

#2 You want to get shredded, fine, do so without using AAS then, if you lack the proper nutritional knowledge and motivation to do it without AAS, then AAS will not help you achieve your goal.
You say you want to start 6 months from now? Ok, use that time to shred then, seriously.

If you think about it, using a compound that is great at building new musclemass, but mediocre at shedding fat, to shed fat instead of building muscles is rather stupid. Cut first, bulk later. The more shredded you are the more everly lb of added muscle will show! AND you are in a much better position to overeat ever so slightly when you want to add muscles, if you are already cut. Thus making the bulk more efficient and shorter.

#3 You dont want the "bulky" look of a bodybuilder, yeah, I can totally understand that. But if you want to put on, lets for the sake of argument say 20 lean lbs, then why not do it as fast and efficient as possible?
Why go 6 f*ing months with shut down HPTA if you dont have to?


If you are absolutely hellbent on doing a cycle, then CUT first, forget the Anavar, use one of MK's newbie cycles of just Test ( and an AI +hCG and proper PCT of course)
This is the safe, intelligent, way to do it regardless of your goal.

how would you say I am young, most guys start doing juice at like 18

like i said in the above post my balls dropped the second week of pct i experienced some rebound but thats all

my point of doing one shot per week yea I'm not an aids patient but you would think the lesser the better right? why put more into your body?

I know one guy who hasnt cycled off steroids in 8 years he has mainly used test and eq the same protocol i followed 1cc of each every 7 to 10 days he has done that for 8 years and in the midst has stacked other steroids on top of test and eq and he is 52 now

I know a guy who repeatedly keeps driving his 190mph sportscar while so drunk he can hardly stand on his feet, and he still havent crashed.. that does not mean its smart, or safe.

Yes, you are on the young side. People who start with AAS at age 18 are uneducated in the subject, stupid, or both.

You've had several answers and lots of input regarding your post, but choose to ignore all of it, because it is not what you WANT to hear.

I'm done with this, do whatever you feel like doing

/Maf