First Cycle looking for simple advice

[john1031]

Hello My name is john, Im 21 almost 22 and have set my mind on the fact that i want to start using AAS to help with my physique. I have been lifting since 8th grade but was never serious with it till about a year ago. A little over a year ago I weighted about 275 pounds and was all fat. Today i weight 195 pounds and am around 15% bf, I have learn an insane amount of things while losing all this fat. But i feel like its time to set it up and start setting more goals as well as bigger goals. I have my diet pretty much worked out i have 3 different forms one for cutting(about 100-150g of carbs), Bulking(350g carbs) and one for maintenance(about 200-250g carbs) I pretty much keep my protein intake the same except here and there when switch it up a little bit to help keep my body on its toes. But I want to start getting to the point to being able to compete on stage. And i know that in general its all most impossible to compete with out AAS. Ive been doing a lot of research on the different steroids and peptides and research liquids, but im not sure what would be the best way to handle my first cycle. For instance would i be fine using winstrol to help with cutting? or should i wait for 2nd cycle or so on.

currently im looking at something like this for my first cycle, but i dont think i want to use dbol cause i dont really want o be much bigger, i have a bulky ass body all ready.

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

please if you can give me any advice or any tips it would be greatly appreciated! Also i know my account page is blank, it wont let me edit anything at the moment. If you need any other info just ask and again thank you!

[AlinSR]

You have only been serious for one year? My advice would be to take it serious for a few more years and put on natty muscle before you turn to the dark side.

[john1031]

I just see no point in waiting if in going to do it any ways, I've put on a lot of muscle, in just tired of the slowness ><

[MuscleInk]

Why ask for advice then if you have your mind made up.

1. You're 21 - bad idea
2. Trained for less than 2-3 years - this will lead to injuries
3. Have you calculated your TDEE based in your LBM to know how much you should eat daily?

[john1031]

I've worked out with football since 8th grade, I'm asking for advice cause I know aas are serious and I want to make sure that I'm doing everything correctly. I like to make sure I have to questions before I do things.

[ksingh93]

why ask for advice then if you have your mind made up.

3. Have you calculated your tdee based in your lbm to know how much you should eat daily?

bro these calculations are not correct or not accurate because our body dnt work according to these calculations .everyone have diff response to diff macros or calories so if he knew what works for him that shoud be fine he loose over a 80 pound

to the o.p
u should add clomid to the pct wk 1,2-100 ,wk3-50,wk4-25 and should continue hcg throughout the pct

[itsjayman02]

I'm with muscleink on this one !!

[Aziz]

bro these calculations are not correct or not accurate because our body dnt work according to these calculations .everyone have diff response to diff macros or calories so if he knew what works for him that shoud be fine he loose over a 80 pound

to the o.p
u should add clomid to the pct wk 1,2-100 ,wk3-50,wk4-25 and should continue hcg throughout the pct

ksingh knowledge drop kar da kurichoud lol

[MuscleInk]

bro these calculations are not correct or not accurate because our body dnt work according to these calculations .everyone have diff response to diff macros or calories so if he knew what works for him that shoud be fine he loose over a 80 pound

to the o.p
u should add clomid to the pct wk 1,2-100 ,wk3-50,wk4-25 and should continue hcg throughout the pct

First, I'm not your "bro". Second, refrain from giving bad advice to kids when you yourself clearly have no clue what you're talking about wise ass. It's little punk kids like you with that level of ignorance and arrogance that gives anabolics a bad reputation. Third, his TDEE based on his LBM will provide a guideline for maintenance calories - i.e. the amount of calories needed at his current LBM to maintain his current weight. To gain and sustain any muscle mass he would need to eat at least 500 calories beyond that. Steroids alone won't make him grow or keep any significant mass if he isn't eating beyond his TDEE. Yes, the proportion of macronutrients are important, however, consuming any more than 40-50g of protein within a three hour window will not be properly assimilated. Fourth, he should start his HCG during his cycle, and not generally throughout the PCT. Fifth, your clomiphene recommendations are incorrect. Are you even aware what 100mg could do to him? Headaches, nausea, blurred vision, and vomiting are common sequela at that doses you are recommending. Perhaps you should also make some recommendations on how to resolve those adverse events since you are so wise in your ways at 20 years old.

[bdos]

Run that burn under a cold tap for a few minutes.

[C3RB3RUS]

damn!

[austinite]

First, I'm not your "bro". Second, refrain from giving bad advice to kids when you yourself clearly have no clue what you're talking about wise ass. It's little punk kids like you with that level of ignorance and arrogance that gives anabolics a bad reputation. Third, his TDEE based on his LBM will provide a guideline for maintenance calories - i.e. the amount of calories needed at his current LBM to maintain his current weight. To gain and sustain any muscle mass he would need to eat at least 500 calories beyond that. Steroids alone won't make him grow or keep any significant mass if he isn't eating beyond his TDEE. Yes, the proportion of macronutrients are important, however, consuming any more than 40-50g of protein within a three hour window will not be properly assimilated. Fourth, he should start his HCG during his cycle, and not generally throughout the PCT. Fifth, your clomiphene recommendations are incorrect. Are you even aware what 100mg could do to him? Headaches, nausea, blurred vision, and vomiting are common sequela at that doses you are recommending. Perhaps you should also make some recommendations on how to resolve those adverse events since you are so wise in your ways at 20 years old.

amen.

[john1031]

Umm well how about instead of argue we just stick to the first cycle plz? I don't want to get huge, I just want to keep leaning out and shaping and cutting

[ksingh93]

first, i'm not your "bro". Second, refrain from giving bad advice to kids when you yourself clearly have no clue what you're talking about wise ass. It's little punk kids like you with that level of ignorance and arrogance that gives anabolics a bad reputation. Third, his tdee based on his lbm will provide a guideline for maintenance calories - i.e. The amount of calories needed at his current lbm to maintain his current weight. To gain and sustain any muscle mass he would need to eat at least 500 calories beyond that. Steroids alone won't make him grow or keep any significant mass if he isn't eating beyond his tdee. Yes, the proportion of macronutrients are important, however, consuming any more than 40-50g of protein within a three hour window will not be properly assimilated. Fourth, he should start his hcg during his cycle, and not generally throughout the pct. Fifth, your clomiphene recommendations are incorrect. Are you even aware what 100mg could do to him? Headaches, nausea, blurred vision, and vomiting are common sequela at that doses you are recommending. Perhaps you should also make some recommendations on how to resolve those adverse events since you are so wise in your ways at 20 years old.

lol really these calculation shit dnt work for me mate . And i knw alot of guys out there who experience the same .i never said steroids will make him grow u need to read that again. For e.g if his tdee is 2200 and he have slow metabolism and he worked his legs on that day :/ how will you find the calories burnt during the workout. The calories burnt during each workout will be diff so by these calculations u can go way up and way down . You need to see how your body react to diff calories thats the only way u can find what works for you.really :/ i didnt got none of that . Age dont matter mate

[ksingh93]

first, i'm not your "bro"..

lol i gave u respect man u dn want that np :d

[Lunk1]

ksingh knowledge drop kar da kurichoud lol

WTF did you just say???