Cycle #2L: D-Bol, Deca, Test

[dogtags]

Good Afternoon All,

With my first cycle complete (600mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks), I have to say I am very pleased with the results I have kept with PCT now complete.

I already have compounds on hand for my next Cycle, and im looking to get a cycle set up.

I am not sure if it was the dosage of the test, or just the way I reacted, BUT, the only side effect I encountered was terrible acne on my arms, shoulders, sides of my back and stomach. I used Austinites protocol and it reduced it a bit, and I am still continueing it, but I still have quite a bit to go(weeks or months) before it clears up. I have never had any issues with acne, so this one really blindsided me.

On hand:

10mg D-bol (100 tabs)
10mg T-Bol(100 Tabs)
14 Amps of perscription Omnadren 250
10ml of Deca 300
Enough HCG for 250ui 2xwk for 12 weeks
Proviron 25mg, taken daily
Adex 1mg, .5 taken EoD
Caber (unsure on dosage)
Liver Sups

I would wondering if running a cycle of 250/wk Test, 300/wk Deca will be a good start for a second cycle, or if these should be increased(i can always get more). Dbol will be taken for 4 weeks and 30mg/day. Any Input and feedback would be greatly appreciated. I will not be starting this in the next few months, I just like to have all of my footwork done well in advance.

[MR-FQ320]

Get more test and deca . double the dosages of those two. Proviron is a bit on the light side too, double that and take twice a day 12 hours apart. I'm not sure about the orals.

[mikefree]

^^Agreed on the doubling of the dosage. I did 500mg Test and 400mg Deca and got good results. As far as orals go, why do you have TBol and Dbol ? Pick one, not both. For Caber the safe play is 1mg per week split Monday and Thursday, it's what I did.

[dogtags]

Get more test and deca. double the dosages of those two. Proviron is a bit on the light side too, double that and take twice a day 12 hours apart. I'm not sure about the orals.

Thats what I was thinking, so 500mg of Test, 600mg of Deca . Is 600 a little high for Deca for a first run? and Proviron 25mg 2x/day or 50mg 2x/day 100mg/day seems excessive

[dogtags]

^^Agreed on the doubling of the dosage. I did 500mg Test and 400mg Deca and got good results. As far as orals go, why do you have TBol and Dbol? Pick one, not both. For Caber the safe play is 1mg per week split Monday and Thursday, it's what I did.

Just got hooked up with it for free, so I have it on hand. I think 400mg deca would be good, 600mg seems good, but if I can get equal results with just 400 i dont see why I would go higher

[pawn master]

Your test should be higher then your deca some recommend twice has much test then deca. And I would shorten your cycles to 8 weeks. Read Ronnies thread in the Q&A can't miss it over 500,000 views.

[werms]

Your test should be higher then your deca some recommend twice has much test then deca. And I would shorten your cycles to 8 weeks. Read Ronnies thread in the Q&A can't miss it over 500,000 views.

Why would anyone taking a Deca Easter shorten to 8 weeks...Thats just dumb

[itsjayman02]

Before I chime in you should post your stats that way we can proper give you advice to suit your needs and goals !!

[itsjayman02]

Stats-

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Height: ?
Weight: ?
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[werms]

Good Afternoon All,

With my first cycle complete (600mg/wk Test E for 12 weeks), I have to say I am very pleased with the results I have kept with PCT now complete.

I already have compounds on hand for my next Cycle, and im looking to get a cycle set up.

I am not sure if it was the dosage of the test, or just the way I reacted, BUT, the only side effect I encountered was terrible acne on my arms, shoulders, sides of my back and stomach. I used Austinites protocol and it reduced it a bit, and I am still continueing it, but I still have quite a bit to go(weeks or months) before it clears up. I have never had any issues with acne, so this one really blindsided me.

On hand:

10mg D-bol (100 tabs)
10mg T-Bol(100 Tabs)
14 Amps of perscription Omnadren 250
10ml of Deca 300
Enough HCG for 250ui 2xwk for 12 weeks
Proviron 25mg, taken daily
Adex 1mg, .5 taken EoD
Caber (unsure on dosage)
Liver Sups

I would wondering if running a cycle of 250/wk Test, 300/wk Deca will be a good start for a second cycle, or if these should be increased(i can always get more). Dbol will be taken for 4 weeks and 30mg/day. Any Input and feedback would be greatly appreciated. I will not be starting this in the next few months, I just like to have all of my footwork done well in advance.

I would stick with one Oral per cycle.
You will need more than 12 weeks of HCG (Deca is a long acting ester I suggest running 15-16 weeks.

[mikefree]

Just got hooked up with it for free, so I have it on hand. I think 400mg deca would be good, 600mg seems good, but if I can get equal results with just 400 i dont see why I would go higher

Personally I like TBol better than Dbol . But that's just preference. No bloat with it. I suggest 50mg/day of which ever oral you choose to jump start it with. I took it about an your before training and got some good pumps. Though you could split the dose to maintain better levels. Again, preference. Listen to your body and remember that Caber, unless you want the chance of Deca d!ck amongst other sides

[pawn master]

Really explain please? In my last cycles (not deca ) I found I made the most gains in weeks 4-8 and then plateaued. I read Ronnies thread for the reload, deload and he says 8 weeks is good with Deca test dbol (5 weeks ) stack. I am about to do just that.

[kelkel]

Test with your deca at 400 is just fine. Control your E and run your caber at .5 x 2 per week to mitigate possible prolactin issues resulting from E issues. You don't need the oral so save it for a rainy day. HCG throughout at 250 IU x 2 per week. 12-14 weeks.

Get full BW ahead of this to check your levels and give you an idea where you need to return to.

[dogtags]

Sorry here you go:

Age: 27
Height: 72"
Weight: 197
BF: 12%
Cycles: 1, Test E only cycle
PCT: Clomid 100/50/25/25, nolva 40/40/20/20, (also using Unleashed/Post Cycle combo)
Training since 2007 past couple years have been primarily focused on power, introduced hypertrophy recently

[itsjayman02]

IMO I would add 1 compound to your base of test this way if you have sides you will know exactly what caused it

If you are to go with the d-Bol 40-50mg per day for 4 weeks is sufficient !!

I am not a fan of decca having had to run it so long and of course the test needs to be run higher not for me sorry!!

[dogtags]

To give an outline of my intent:

Wk 1-14: Test 500mg/wk
Wk 1-12: Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 1-16: HCG 500iu/wk
Wk 1-16: Caber .5mg 2x/wk
Wk 1-16: Proviron 50mg ED
Wk 1-16: Adex, .5mg EoD

I would like to incorperate the Dbol or Tbol, I did buy the Dbol with the intent on using it, as I am unsure if I will do another cycle after this one. Got great gains from my last and this is hopefully the last one ill do for a while, if not ever



edit: I hear ya on the 1 compound per run, I feel in those first 3-4 weeks nothing will be popping up anyways, so I would know if anythings giving me issues it would be the Dbol

[itsjayman02]

Well choice is yours my friend dbol dose no more than 50 mg per day for 4 weeks

The proviron I've ran at 100 but not needed in your stack IMO !!

[kelkel]

To give an outline of my intent:

Wk 1-14: Test 500mg/wk
Wk 1-12: Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 1-16: HCG 500iu/wk
Wk 1-16: Caber .5mg 2x/wk
Wk 1-16: Proviron 50mg ED
Wk 1-16: Adex, .5mg EoD

I would like to incorperate the Dbol or Tbol, I did buy the Dbol with the intent on using it, as I am unsure if I will do another cycle after this one. Got great gains from my last and this is hopefully the last one ill do for a while, if not ever



edit: I hear ya on the 1 compound per run, I feel in those first 3-4 weeks nothing will be popping up anyways, so I would know if anythings giving me issues it would be the Dbol

Famous last words.........


Good luck with what you choose DT!