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06-25-2013, 06:00 AM #1
Nolva/prolactin HCG/LH and E2 Aromasin and PCT???
Ok, I've heard thigns that I find strange and I would like enlightenment.
1. I've heard that Nolvadex could increase the prolactin(I guess when conjugated with 19nor).
2. I've heard that Hcg create a retroinhibition of the LH
3. I've heard that HCG aromatize!!
4. I've heard aromasin had a effect on the LH/FSH like nolvadex.
Here's my knowledgew applicated to this, I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong.
1. Nolvadex do not increase prolactin directly, however the 19nor stay a long time in the body and when we are starting the PCT there is some left. So when we stop the AI and start the PCT, the bounce back In E2 will increase a bit during PCT.
If my statement is true, would it be a good idea to keep taking prami/caber during 1-2 weeks into PCT.
2. This one might be true. HCG act like LH on the leydig's cells so may supress aswell.
If this is true, It show well why blasting HCG in PCT is counter-productive.
3. I don't think HCG aromatize however, it may be true that it increase the production of testosterone made by the leydigs cells, and that testosterone aromatize.
If this is true, I still thing that it negligible on a normal cycle. However, on a low test/high tren cycle. 100mg test/weeks if the production of natural test equivalent to 30-50mg/weeks it's still 30-50% more. So we could still lower our intake in Test to keep low test/high tren.
4. I don't think aromasin stimulate the LH/FSH, However it drop the E2 and lower the SHBG. So It may increase testosterone , however nolvadex block the E2 in the hypothalamus so even if the E2 is lower it will change nothing...
I think aromasin may be interesting 1 weeks before pct and during, because it stop the E2 rebounce, but I don't think it increase LH.
Thanks for your time.
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06-25-2013, 06:41 AM #2
Wrong section.
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1- Nolva has no effect on prolactin . What it does fdo is uoegulate progesterone receptors for 10-14 days, then ironically enough it DOWNREGUATES then from that point forward. The point is in the abscence of elevated estrogen it wont matter.
2- AT large doses there is evidence to support this yes. I agree with you
3- I agree with you.
4- Aromasin - like any ai, will do so via negative feedback. Estrogen gets low, the only way the body can produce more estorgen is to produce more test to aromatize. Estrogen exerts a negative feedback on test production, lowering it WILL increase LH and FSH production and thus test production.
A few of my thoughts......
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06-25-2013, 10:23 AM #4
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