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    Am still interested in a cycle

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    Is there a question in here somewhere??

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    What do you need?
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    I've been at 4500 calories for about 3 monts now and feel I can maintain this intake indefinitely. Loosing abs!!!! Slowly but surely.... Want to try this and am curious on feed back?
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    losing abs?

    as in you can't see them due to the increase in bf%?

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    Eat less? I'm confused. OP you need to give us full and complete details. My crystal ball is broken.
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    Test e 500 mg 12 wk
    Dbol 25 mg first 6 wk
    Nolvadex 40 mg week 15-16 20 mg- wk 17

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    Not to sound condescending, but OP, can you please speak in full sentences!?! We can't help you if we don't know what it is you're trying to do. Start with your objective (e.g. Trying to lean out and lose bf OR trying to gain LBM). Give us your FULL stats: age, height, current weight, body fat percent (bf%), TDEE, daily caloric intake. Then list your proposed plan.

    I didn't see an AI. I certainly hope your just forgot to mention it.

    THEN we can help you.

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    K 34 5-10 12% bf( slightly higher now I'm sure) 162 as of tonight .. 4500 calories a day... Tdee around 3000 at a guess ... Agenda. 170 10-12% bf would the cycle I proposed in the earlier thread be sufficient for the gains I'm looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D6810
    K 34 5-10 12% bf( slightly higher now I'm sure) 162 as of tonight .. 4500 calories a day... Tdee around 3000 at a guess ... Agenda. 170 10-12% bf would the cycle I proposed in the earlier thread be sufficient for the gains I'm looking for?
    So.....if I understand you, you're currently 162lbs with an "estimated" bf of 12%. That puts your LBM at about 142lbs and your TDEE about 2138......not sure how you arrived at a TDEE of 3000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D6810
    Test e 500 mg 12 wk
    Dbol 25 mg first 6 wk
    Nolvadex 40 mg week 15-16 20 mg- wk 17
    Is this your first cycle or have you run any prior cycle(s)?

    Any AI?
    HCG ?
    Clomiphene for PCT?

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    By the way, unless you've had a bodpod or DEXA measurement, the chart below should help you get a close approximation to bf



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    First cycle .. Been lifting a year now regimented ... On and off since 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by D6810
    First cycle .. Been lifting a year now regimented ... On and off since 16
    I'd suggested lifting a year more and working on diet. Perhaps I'm wrong but it wasn't clear to me that you knew how to calculate LBM or TDEE and your macro nutrients may be poorly planned.

    The connective tissue needs time to strengthen before running gear because you increase the risk of injuring ligaments or tendons.

    The cycle needs more work. It's incomplete.

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    Thanks for the input... Tendons and ligaments already tough .... Physical labor for work... Concrete work... That's where I estimate my tree from

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    Your other thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-if-u-can.html

    You have clearly made your mind up you are going to cycle regardless. Please put into effect the changes suggested in the above thread and come back and let us now your gains one month after your PCT ends.

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    Sorry mate but manual work is not weight traing as your are not hitting all your body parts

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    Don't want to dis you my friend but
    Things don't add up your consuming 4500 cal per day for the last 3 months and you weigh 162lb and losing abs

    You have been training for 1 year and your routine is spotty as you put it!!

    You train at home and do manual work

    You stated earlier you don't know what macros are!!

    I could go on .......lets start from scratch
    First calculate your TDEE familiarise yourself with macros and what your consuming use an app like myfitnesspal

    Eat clean bring your weight up

    Also pick basic weight training routines to begin with and train hard for 12-16 months

    Research beginner cycles I.e test only !!

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    I'm new to all these technical terms... And learning a great deal quickly... Mainly impart of these threads and you guys giving me input... I also read in other threads about guys saying they are 130 and hitting 180 with these power full hormones... I am only looking for a gain of 10-15 ponds when said and done.... I know I can achive this naturally with the route I'm on ...... But the allure of these performance enhances are STRONG!!!!... Lol...

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    And BIB I did take your advice on upping my cards I am using old fashioned Quaker oats.... Thanks

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