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    First cycle Dbol and Prop

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    I started my cycle today, Shot glute and it went in easy, no pain at all.

    Dbol 40mg per day for 4 weeks
    Test prop 100mg EOD for 6-8 weeks

    Nolva for PCT.


    I have Arimidex on hand should I start taking it straight away? or wait for estrogen related sides to appear? to keep bloat from the dbol down?


    Thanks.

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    you take the arimidex to prevent sides......

    add clomid or torem to PCT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    you take the arimidex to prevent sides......

    add clomid or torem to PCT..
    How much adex would you use?

    As for PCT nolva is all I have.

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    should have everything you need before you start a cycle.. and you also should not be asking these sorts of questions after you have already started............

    start with .25mg of Adex EOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    should have everything you need before you start a cycle.. and you also should not be asking these sorts of questions after you have already started............

    start with .25mg of Adex EOD
    adex is in 1mg tablets

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    Have fun splitting them !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan View Post
    adex is in 1mg tablets
    You will crash your e2 if you don't split or get liquid to have .25 mg eod to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02 View Post
    Have fun splitting them !!
    I'm not going to be splitting them, I am going to go with 1mg EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan View Post
    I'm not going to be splitting them, I am going to go with 1mg EOD
    Again crashing your e2 is not something you want to do. Please don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Again crashing your e2 is not something you want to do. Please don't.
    My brother says he has always done 1mg EOD, sometimes E3D, with no problems.

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    You should ditch the dbol on your first cycle too. Test only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan View Post
    My brother says he has always done 1mg EOD, sometimes E3D, with no problems.

    Guess what? Your not your brother. Listen or don't. I am trying to help. We will be here when you post I feel like shit and don't know why. Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Guess what? Your not your brother. Listen or don't. I am trying to help. We will be here when you post I feel like shit and don't know why. Just saying
    I appreciate your input and respect your opinion. From what I understand AI use is entirely dependant on the individual. I know of people who do not use one at all while on cycle. I will start with 1mg EOD and see how my body reacts. If I wipe out my e2 I will adjust my dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan View Post
    I appreciate your input and respect your opinion. From what I understand AI use is entirely dependant on the individual. I know of people who do not use one at all while on cycle. I will start with 1mg EOD and see how my body reacts. If I wipe out my e2 I will adjust my dose.
    lol what...

    cut it in half, .5mg EOD/E3D should be ok...

    or buy a pill cutter.. or buy some liquid Adex.. (banner at top of this page has it, ar-r , called Liquidex, easier to measure mls than it is cutting up a pill..)

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    We can only advise........then we can help to pick up the pieces!!

    Good luck with it mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    lol what...

    cut it in half, .5mg EOD/E3D should be ok...

    or buy a pill cutter.. or buy some liquid Adex.. (banner at top of this page has it, ar-r, called Liquidex, easier to measure mls than it is cutting up a pill..)
    Going to go look for a pill cutter tomorrow.

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    To much of your AI is never a good thing. Also why dbol on your first cycle? It will be a waste, the test will do over and above what your body needs at first anything else will be a waste IMO... Also dbol sucks the life out of your liver which in turn can cause a slew of other problems.... Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan

    My brother says he has always done 1mg EOD, sometimes E3D, with no problems.
    That seems in probable. Very high dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan

    I appreciate your input and respect your opinion. From what I understand AI use is entirely dependant on the individual. I know of people who do not use one at all while on cycle. I will start with 1mg EOD and see how my body reacts. If I wipe out my e2 I will adjust my dose.
    That is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time... Crash and learn!!! Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chx beach 79 View Post
    That is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time... Crash and learn!!! Haha
    I couldn't even respond to that. Thought process of some people.

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    I am likely going to go with .5mg EOD, on days that I don't pin. Or would E3D be better?

    Thanks for the responses

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    Think of it in these terms. Too much arimidex (anti-e) will kill your gains. Estrogen is important in building muscle. Also consider your libido, too high or too low is no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledgehammer1 View Post
    Think of it in these terms. Too much arimidex (anti-e) will kill your gains. Estrogen is important in building muscle. Also consider your libido, too high or too low is no good.
    So how would you dose it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battleplan View Post
    So how would you dose it?
    .25mg EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    .25mg EOD

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    I would agree. So u will quarter the pills. I use a pill cutter.

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    Bro, splitting tabs is a piece of cake. START with .25 EOD. Better to err on the side of caution on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You should ditch the dbol on your first cycle too. Test only.
    ^^^ I agree water , water and more water on the first cycle with Dbol . 1st go and your body will work very good with Test. ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    ^^^ I agree water , water and more water on the first cycle with Dbol. 1st go and your body will work very good with Test. ...crazy mike

    I have been using the dbol for 5 days now and I dont seem to be carrying any more water than normal, maybe I will the longer I use it, If it becomes an issue I can always drop it and add it to a later cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2'd View Post
    Bro, splitting tabs is a piece of cake. START with .25 EOD. Better to err on the side of caution on this.
    Yeah I did .5mg on the second day of my cycle but I am now doing .25 EOD from now on.

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