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    Under dosed gear

    Hello boy and girls
    I have ran two cycles with gear I believe to be less than up to par. I now have 100% legit gear and am interested in trying deca
    So my question is this
    Should I stick to a basic test only or run test and deca ?
    I have run test twice before but who know at what concentration

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    2 test e cycles at 500mg/week
    18% bf current will drop before
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    I would just run test again. See how good the new gear works for you. You may not even need deca .

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    Did the test do anything the first cycles? Was it bunk or just under dosed?

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    I did work a little but not much in way of strength or gain
    I should note I did a little research on the brand and they appear to have taken a sharp decline on quality and strength at the time of my cycle

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    If it was just under dosed I would run the test and deca ... I did it for my second cycle and it yielded much greater results then the test alone... Just my 2 cents some others might disagree.

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    Thank you for opinion

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    Did you determine with BW or just guessing. Too many times ppl blame under dosed gear when it's likely some fault of their own due to nutrition or routine.

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    Bw at end of second cycle I was just over the high end of the range

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    I would try your new stuff but thats just me mikey

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    When EXACTLY did you do BW during the cycle?

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    Week 10 second cycle

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    How much were you using and what were your total and free test numbers and ranges?

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    500mg/week and I can't remember off hand

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    How long did you wait after cycle to get bloodwork?

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    Well if you were only at the high end of the normal range I would venture it was not low dosed but completely fake.

    Try a cycle with legit test once!

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    ^^^^ I agree with lunk, I said earlier that I would go test, deca next, BUT PLEASE DISREGARD... I was assuming it was slightly under dosed, it sounds now like it was bunk gear... Listen to lunk on this one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Well if you were only at the high end of the normal range I would venture it was not low dosed but completely fake.

    Try a cycle with legit test once!
    ^^^ I totally agree. If the gear was gear at all you would be at a range much higher than Normal Natural High Range ! I don't understand why you can't remember like if it was in the teens or the 2000's h/L or 3,000's . But that will give an Idea. Erections, libido, energy, appetite etc... Do as Lunk said ...crazy mike

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    Crazy mike they use a different system in Canada range is something like 9-27 and pre cycle I was 13 near the end I was 34 or so

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    I wouldn't say it was 100% bunk I did notice some sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey hulk View Post
    Crazy mike they use a different system in Canada range is something like 9-27 and pre cycle I was 13 near the end I was 34 or so
    Even if that's the case Mikey, if you have legit quality test it would be best to run a legit cycle with close to real test results.

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    Roger that

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    I would stick with the Test cycle.

    I have known several people who have tried Test/Deca cycles and while the gains are good, PCT is a bitch. I really think that Deca while an excellent substance for those who are on TRT or have established themselves at being resilient with recovery, for those who only have a cycle or two, I feel the likely difficulty in recovery is not worth the risk.

    Just my opinion based on my observations,

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    Ok thank you sir

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    start with the Test and see what happens.... you might be good with just that.

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