Tren Question on Start Up Time

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 03:11 PM

I have a question in regard to Tren and a time factor. Please this thread is not to Q & A me and my stats and what if any plans or cycle. Just looking for info. Right now and it will be good for others to know. Thank you.

If a body is taking Testosterone Enanthate 750mgs a week for a duration of 7 weeks then plugs in Tren Ace 50mg EOD how long will it take for the body to begin to work with it. What I mean simply how long until the body will take for the muscle tissues to react. At all, just to begin at all.

More defining for the user to feel it to have some effect on appetite, strength, drive and aggression. Now not all, not all at the same time but any. I am not talking about the unwanted sides, but the wanted effects. Please remember I mean something that the person would notice, yes I feel it and this is not a placebo. Type of answer.

I will note since some of you know me and where I might be at with my cycle, the question remains neutral and I ask for an educated, and an experienced person to answer the best he/she can. I have done a Tren cycle for six weeks in my past but it didn’t start like this.
...crazy mike

**austinite** · 07-07-2013, 03:16 PM

I think you're asking how long it takes for Trenbolone Acetate to begin affecting your system. Well, the answer is almost immediately. Or as long as it takes to enter your bloodstream. However, it take time for serum levels to build up where you would actually "feel" a difference.

**AZGOLDSMEMBER86** · 07-07-2013, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I think you're asking how long it takes for Trenbolone Acetate to begin affecting your system. Well, the answer is almost immediately. Or as long as it takes to enter your bloodstream. However, it take time for serum levels to build up where you would actually "feel" a difference.

By feel you mean insomnia,sweating,tren cough,?

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I think you're asking how long it takes for Trenbolone Acetate to begin affecting your system. Well, the answer is almost immediately. Or as long as it takes to enter your bloodstream. However, it take time for serum levels to build up where you would actually "feel" a difference.

Come on of course I knew ( or maybe you don't know) that it would start immediately but it was the second that you make mention. Sorry about my initial wording. Yes How long given we're all different do we know how long for the serum to build so the user could have some gai. Gain can be appetite, aggression, strength ya know what I mean man.

My thought was maybe that test being similar ( is it ?) in it's properties and already working, is the Tren so 100% different. Excuse me but as old as I am I am week in some areas of my understanding. So it's like Tren on test not Tren on Winstrol , or Deca , or Dbol . Correct me if I'm just way off base here. Thanks...cm

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86

By feel you mean insomnia,sweating,tren cough,?

Please reread my Question...I spelled it out. ...cm

**< <Samson> >** · 07-07-2013, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I think you're asking how long it takes for Trenbolone Acetate to begin affecting your system. Well, the answer is almost immediately. Or as long as it takes to enter your bloodstream. However, it take time for serum levels to build up where you would actually "feel" a difference.

I agree with this, specially just coming off the train.

Within a week or less you will actually feel it. I would think at least since that's how it was when it hit me. Then it just seems to progress and get stronger.

But, your dose should be very good for a nice mild "bump.

I couldn't resist, and just started shooting more. I don't think I will be doing that again any time soon though.

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I agree with this, specially just coming off the train.

Within a week or less you will actually feel it. I would think at least since that's how it was when it hit me. Then it just seems to progress and get stronger.

But, your dose should be very good for a nice mild "bump.

I couldn't resist, and just started shooting more. I don't think I will be doing that again any time soon though.

tThat's the reply to the question I ask. Not that that what I wanted to here , but your on target with the Q. Austin~ and others should understand me now. . ..crazy mike

There are others that have done this and like Tren so I hope to get some more feed. Also the Q's to are they similar in base activity, the Test and the Tren....cm

**auswest** · 07-07-2013, 03:44 PM

Purely based off my experience (cycle details listed below)

First week I notice enhanced mood, strong pump

Second week hot flushes increased sweating and feeling fuller and increased pump

Week 3 starting to see visual differences, more sweating

Week 4 insomnia, more sweating especially at night and like a tap in the gym, alot more vascular looking dryer and seeing increased muscle separation, starting to see muscle gain/fat loss effects now, weight gain has stabilised but looking leaner each day.

Strength gains and increased libido and weight gain from week 1 onwards.

That is my experience on my cycle currently
80mg tren ed/50mg prop ed/.5adex ed/.5prami ed, 500 cals over Maintence.

Weight gain coming from a strong pre cycle prime and then eating at 500 above on cycle
Week 1 2kgs
Week 2 another 2
Week 3 another 2
Week 4 no weight gain but starting to lean out

**auswest** · 07-07-2013, 03:47 PM

Have a read of my log, have been a bit slack this week (week4) but ill update it tonight.

**Flacco** · 07-07-2013, 03:55 PM

Crazy Mike, you're a dick lol No offense

**tectime** · 07-07-2013, 03:58 PM

I've always done 75 mg eod. By the fourth or fifth injection I start to feel it rolling up on me! By the 10th or 11th injection I'm rolling pretty hard, good but hard. By the 16th or 17th injection the mirror tell the tale. By the 25th injection or the start of 7 th week I'm ready to put it back in the safe till next time. Always accomp by 400 mg tes cyp and sometimes 200 mg deca wkly, but always 400 mg tes. Love the results hate the after mass of the dreaded tren train.

**tectime** · 07-07-2013, 04:00 PM

Aftermath ! I love the mass ! Just not the mess!

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by auswest

Have a read of my log, have been a bit slack this week (week4) but ill update it tonight.

Very cool. I'm well acquainted with the sides, ha, if your not you didn't do the real deal I say. My sweats were just over the top, here and four shirts a night. In my own bed I have to put towels on it in the middle of the night Thanks I'll look. ...crazy mike

**< <Samson> >** · 07-07-2013, 04:17 PM

Either my sauce was weak(I strongly doubt) or I have a very high tolerance. The only time I would sweat is during workouts. At night and pretty much any other time, I just felt a little warmer.

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Either my sauce was weak(I strongly doubt) or I have a very high tolerance. The only time I would sweat is during workouts. At night and pretty much any other time, I just felt a little warmer.

Test makes me sweat, go figure. Now see what Tren does to me. I also got bad chills at night. ...crazy mike

**Sledgehammer1** · 07-07-2013, 04:38 PM

I do ED injections of at least 50mg/day, but usually 75mg/day (sweet spot). At about 2.5 weeks I begin to notice muscle separation. Week 3 I start to notice that im gaining size. Around six weeks in is when I cant stop checking myself out in the mirror. lol. (when I really see that my physic has changed.

**Lunk1** · 07-07-2013, 04:38 PM

Your questions have been answered but I have one for you. Remember last time you used Tren ? I do. Do you think it's in your best interest?

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Your questions have been answered but I have one for you. Remember last time you used Tren? I do. Do you think it's in your best interest?

Hey I was away from my station here for a while. Lunk I think I know what exactly you are talking about. And I am giving that much consideration. I know the potential manic mania rage can be with me. Sh!t.... well sh!t. Good thought Lunk...? ...mike

**Chx beach 79** · 07-07-2013, 05:58 PM

Mike, I am on tren A now and I could starting feeling effects a few hours after my first pin... It comes on quick!

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

Mike, I am on tren A now and I could starting feeling effects a few hours after my first pin... It comes on quick!

Well I don't know if you've done it before or not. Yes I have, only one 6 week cycle of it and Test Cyp also 6 week od Test P I finished up with Winstrol . I did real good with that cycle. I put on some lean mass, got bigger while I burned off fatty tissue around my mid section on the bike after each work out. Probably one of my best general bodybuilding cycles. If was definitely a lean bulk. Love that Winstrol at the end, kept me up n tight and held the vascularity.

Back to the thread I didn't quite know how it came on so I was asking. I thought it help out some info for the newbie Tren 'ders to come as well as myself. ..crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Your questions have been answered but I have one for you. Remember last time you used Tren? I do. Do you think it's in your best interest?

So that was to instigate thoughts on my part. I haven't done anything yet. I was thinking if I just wanted to run out the last 6 week with just the test. If I did anything it would have to be a short ester.... crazy mike anyway not the thread

**Lunk1** · 07-07-2013, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

So that was to instigate thoughts on my part. I haven't done anything yet. I was thinking if I just wanted to run out the last 6 week with just the test. If I did anything it would have to be a short ester.... crazy mike anyway not the thread

LOL..Mike, everything I say is either to "instigate thought" or just plain instigate

**crazy mike** · 07-07-2013, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

LOL..Mike, everything I say is either to "instigate thought" or just plain instigate

Ha ha...cool man you amuse me sometimes.....it's ok. ...crazy mike

**Sledgehammer1** · 07-07-2013, 10:24 PM

Do you mind sharing what happened C.Mike? or is it just best left alone. I had an incident on my first tren cycle. I made an oath/promise to myself since then that no matter what happened, while I was on tren, I would just let it go. That's not easy either coming from where I live. People are so rude, all about themselves, arrogant, just out to make a buck. Ive seen so many people come and go. They are so easily corrupted by the gambing, money, sex, drugs and alcohol. Hence Sin City...I also didn't want my wife claiming that when I was on tren I lost control. I found it to be far to effective and didn't want not be able to have it in my AAS arsenal.

**Java Man** · 07-08-2013, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Test makes me sweat, go figure. Now see what Tren does to me. I also got bad chills at night. ...crazy mike

Test makes me sweat, too cm. not like tren but I sweat more in the gym and in bed just from test alone.

**lovbyts** · 07-08-2013, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Java Man

Test makes me sweat, too cm. not like tren but I sweat more in the gym and in bed just from test alone.

Same here. I think test may actually make me sweat more than tren . Last time I kept test at HRT levels and used tren I didnt have night sweats anything like I did before. I also get the chills. Such fun...

**Java Man** · 07-08-2013, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Same here. I think test may actually make me sweat more than tren. Last time I kept test at HRT levels and used tren I didnt have night sweats anything like I did before. I also get the chills. Such fun...

Yeah, but for some reason I can't wait to do it again

**lovbyts** · 07-08-2013, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Java Man

Yeah, but for some reason I can't wait to do it again

I never said it was enough to make me stop either. lol

**crazy mike** · 07-08-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer1

Do you mind sharing what happened C.Mike? or is it just best left alone. I had an incident on my first tren cycle. I made an oath/promise to myself since then that no matter what happened, while I was on tren, I would just let it go. That's not easy either coming from where I live. People are so rude, all about themselves, arrogant, just out to make a buck. Ive seen so many people come and go. They are so easily corrupted by the gambing, money, sex, drugs and alcohol. Hence Sin City...I also didn't want my wife claiming that when I was on tren I lost control. I found it to be far to effective and didn't want not be able to have it in my AAS arsenal.

During my peak on Tren , I had three episodes with LE and was almost taken away. Cuffed and seated once. And close two other times, very close. I also had some altercations with some AA people after a meeting. A close call with my wife too close. So yea the stories are not good. the details of my actions are very bad and when I look back I behaved like a jerk , stupid and demoralized myself.

So I must be so, so careful. Because of the mix with Bi-Polar, my manic side of Bi-Polar has always been dangerous when enraged. I am much, much better now clean n sober. The big thing is I almost, well I do black-out. Many time in my past even when not in a drug/alcohol stooper , my manic rage has blacked me out and when it all slows down, after the damage is done, I can't quite put the pieces together.
Enough said, I have to be very, very carful and my wife talks with me and keep an eye on my level of anxiety, anger, voice and demeanor. But she isn't with me and can't jump up and stop me. Only I can do this, Only I can make the change and handle my selfish temper.
Guys I've been good, so please don't think I'm a raging maniac anymore. I'm down to low doses and only two (2) Bi-Polar meds now ....crazy mike

**Chx beach 79** · 07-08-2013, 09:26 AM

Be careful crazy mike... I just want the best for you, how about starting at a very low dose and working up so that you don't get that surging feeling that can bring on anger and mania?

**crazy mike** · 07-08-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

Be careful crazy mike... I just want the best for you, how about starting at a very low dose and working up so that you don't get that surging feeling that can bring on anger and mania?

I am thinking. I hear and respect that idea. You know I hate being like this, and for anyone that wants to tell me, "Hey get over it" or "Grow up" on and etc.. You haven't walked in these shoes and haven't a clue as to a real disorder. Not an excuse, OK, but a real live quantifying factor. I'm being very careful and holding back from being careless....crazy mike

**Chx beach 79** · 07-08-2013, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I am thinking. I hear and respect that idea. You know I hate being like this, and for anyone that wants to tell me, "Hey get over it" or "Grow up" on and etc.. You haven't walked in these shoes and haven't a clue as to a real disorder. Not an excuse, OK, but a real live quantifying factor. I'm being very careful and holding back from being careless....crazy mike

I totally understand it is a real disorder, I am not trying to be preachy... I just don't want anything bad to happen!
Good luck buddy!

**Lunk1** · 07-08-2013, 10:33 AM

You're not "being careful"! You have a disorder that causes extreme anger and un-explained mood swings. Now you plan to use a compound that is noted to intensify aggression for many, even after already experiencing how it negatively effects you. That's not being careful, it's being reckless and irresponsible.

**Black** · 07-08-2013, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I am thinking. I hear and respect that idea. You know I hate being like this, and for anyone that wants to tell me, "Hey get over it" or "Grow up" on and etc.. You haven't walked in these shoes and haven't a clue as to a real disorder. Not an excuse, OK, but a real live quantifying factor. I'm being very careful and holding back from being careless....crazy mike

You don't grow out of chemical imbalances, right? If someone ever told you that, they obviously don't comprehend mental illnesses. Good luck buddy, you know your body better than anyone else.

**crazy mike** · 07-08-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

You're not "being careful"! You have a disorder that causes extreme anger and un-explained mood swings. Now you plan to use a compound that is noted to intensify aggression for many, even after already experiencing how it negatively effects you. That's not being careful, it's being reckless and irresponsible.

I have to disagree. I can use something potentially dangerous Lunk and be careful. I have a support team as well as my experience. Now it being Acetate I can stop quickly, you know that. I can start easy, I can monitor my self mostly with help and people telling me what I really am acting like. I have worked a lot on this anger issue. I am grouchy on aas, always. I have worked with my wife curbing my grouchiness and the yelling. It is no where what has ben years past. I am not now like I was 5 months ago on just Test itself. I have made great gains in my control.

AA has helped me in my last year. Ya know the part of the program that works on out defects on character. I just went to a meeting for the first in a long time, because I just felt to lethargic in my working on a better self, a more accepting person.

Just the serenity prayer said at the beginning which I've gotten away from. It range loud to me yesterday. Ah ha, mike are you being tolerant, are you trying to change others to suit yourself , I asked when we said it a loud.
I've seen an aggression with myself on this forum now often recently with the newbies. I've continued to badger them and convince them my point when yourself and other Vets have let it.
So you see, or maybe I hope you can see by what I just said and the going to my meeting Sunday that I am being proactive with these very shortcomings.

Who says that I can't overcome what taunts me. Hell I'm on less meds now due to my being proactive, and clean.

Don't be so quick to judge me when you don't know the whole story, in regard to my mindfulness of my defect of controlled anger.
The fact that we talk about this and I know the shortcoming and possible danger and am working on it , with it, with already discussed and planed observation means that I am being careful. You/I cannot be reckless and irresponsible when I am placing check points and asking for continual observation from friends that know me better than I can see about myself. When I plan, plan I say (sounds good on paper I know) to watch for the attitude.

You are not the first person who brings me thoughts and caution to this. My wife is with me all the way in so far as helping and she would love it if I didn't do any so she sits with baited breath to tell me "Mike you are getting nasty"

I rest my rebuttal with that Lunk in hope that you might change your mind about me being reckless and irresponsible. Thanks for the red flag bud. AND no hard feelings.. ...crazy mike

I don't want to or will I argue this with you, but I would like to hear you honest thoughts after I have told you what I did. ...cm

**Jayprice** · 07-08-2013, 11:18 AM

I've only ever taken Tren E so I can't really comment on the Tren A. I'd say within the 3rd week I started noticing changes.

I applaud you for getting "clean and sober".

**crazy mike** · 07-08-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jayprice

I've only ever taken Tren E so I can't really comment on the Tren A. I'd say within the 3rd week I started noticing changes.

I applaud you for getting "clean and sober".

Thanks Jay, Ace is like prop it is a different ball game. If I knew I would be OK with all the side ( they are rough for me) and my temper I would do Enanthate . Gotta get to the gym. Please leave a reply Lunk, my friend. ....cm

**knuckles69** · 07-08-2013, 11:54 AM

Hey mike, I'm about to start a drol, tren cycle and i have similar (not as severe tho) aggression problems so what I have done is set myself 'warning bells' as I'm in a new country and don't have the friend support I did back home. I loath 4 way stop signs with passion, although a lot calmer with them after a year living here I still don't like them so if I lose my noodle more than once a week at a stop sign ill know my aggression is rising. More than 3 times a week I'm gonna sit down and have an honest think with myself if its worth it. I'm sure you have 'triggers' just as I do and when you start noticing them more often just be honest with yourself. Btw congrats on sobriety, again I know how it feels to be helpless to a substance. Good luck mate

**crazy mike** · 07-08-2013, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by knuckles69

Hey mike, I'm about to start a drol, tren cycle and i have similar (not as severe tho) aggression problems so what I have done is set myself 'warning bells' as I'm in a new country and don't have the friend support I did back home. I loath 4 way stop signs with passion, although a lot calmer with them after a year living here I still don't like them so if I lose my noodle more than once a week at a stop sign ill know my aggression is rising. More than 3 times a week I'm gonna sit down and have an honest think with myself if its worth it. I'm sure you have 'triggers' just as I do and when you start noticing them more often just be honest with yourself. Btw congrats on sobriety, again I know how it feels to be helpless to a substance. Good luck mate

It's been a year and 8 months clean. But I ran for 46 yrs. ...crazy mike

**Lunk1** · 07-08-2013, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Thanks Jay, Ace is like prop it is a different ball game. If I knew I would be OK with all the side ( they are rough for me) and my temper I would do Enanthate. Gotta get to the gym. Please leave a reply Lunk, my friend. ....cm

No need to reply Mike. You are an adult and know whats best for you. I hope you have the safeguards in place and the wherewithal to avoid bad situations. best of luck!