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    Question First Injection first Cycle possible side effect?

    Today I started my first injection of a test and deca cycle I decided to fallow your novice 1 cycle witch is 250mg of test with 25mg of deca witch I converted to ml witch equaled .8ml of test and .2ml of deca I fallowed your injection procedure and decided to inject it using the shoulder everything went find no pain no discomfort but about 15 mins later I felt a little funny almost like a serge of adrenalin witch lead to felling drunk and heaviness on the chest witch lasted for about two and a half hours as of right now I feel back to normal is this normal?

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    Welcome Jonny,

    First I really need to know... what is your BF % ?

    25mg of deca ? Is that a typo?

    Did you aspirate ?
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    my post on body fat and cycle info has to be approved by and admin for having a link witch is linked to this site... but as the typo I'm using ml so I used .8ml of test and .2ml of deca witch totaled 1ml witch seems low my buddy injections a ml of EQ a ml of TEST and ml of TREND twice a week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    my post on body fat and cycle info has to be approved by and admin for having a link witch is linked to this site... but as the typo I'm using ml so I used .8ml of test and .2ml of deca witch totaled 1ml witch seems low my buddy injections a ml of EQ a ml of TEST and ml of TREND twice a week...
    We don't speak in ML's, we speak in Milliigrams. ML's mean nothing.

    Your post does not need admin's approval. What is your body fat percentage? It's just a number, just post the number.
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    ok so .8 Milliigrams of test and .2 Milliigrams of Deca I did aspirate by .2 Milliigrams no blood a few air bubbles... I would have to say 20% body fat and yesterday I did 30 mins on the trend no problems and 45 mins of sparing... felt fine no lose of breath or excessive heart rate in where I felt out of shape... always had an active spots life baseball football kickboxing and been off and on lifting scenes 18...
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    I don't think you understand that ML is volume and MG is weight.

    Anyway, 20% is too high to cycle. You'll have plenty of amplified side effects including but not limited to; high blood pressure and very difficult to manage estrogen. You have a plethora of aromatase enzymes. You just need diet help to lose weight. Visit the nutrition section.
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    U need to knw about the stuff man. By your posts it seems u jus readed the cycle and started it so stop what u doing read the stickies take advice from people here and then do what you want to do
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    Dude if the bottle says 250 mg/ml. 1 cc is 250 mg if you do 1/2 a cc it's 125 mg. Do you understand?
    For ex. Monday I pinned 250 ml of test and on Thursday I pinned 250 mg. so for the week I pinned 500 mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Dude if the bottle says 250 mg/ml. 1 cc is 250 mg if you do 1/2 a cc it's 125 mg. Do you understand?
    For ex. Monday I pinned 250 mg of test and on Thursday I pinned 250 mg. so for the week I pinned 500 mg
    Fixed
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    I just had blood work and an ECT scan and the doctor said all test result came back fine says I have healthy blood pressure and a great heart... I've had estrogen problems before when taking Dbol my nipples just killed and I was at 12-15% body fat... I eat well I do not shop weekly I shop daily and pick up fresh vegs and fruit for salads take veggie greens++ Muilt do not take much dairy I use coconut milk and almond I also take phytoberry with a lot of natural juices that are water down.. I stay away from red meats do not smoke or drink or consume other forms of dr*gs... all my supplements like protein powder contain no artificial flavors or ingredients witch cost waaay more it over a $1000 month for good food and supplements.. this is why I have to work in the oil sands all the building blocks are there I did an hour and a half of Cardio without a break yesterday.. I know fit people who can't even do that.. I'm healthy I grant you the body fat could drop down to 1% but is there anything I can change with the dosage of test and deca ... like take one or the other.. I still don't really understand why that happen.
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    ok... I think I get it... so if I did .8 mill of test .2mill of deca then I could have done too much holy **** I hope I don't die should I worried and should I stop asap? but I have seen my Buddie do like 3 mill shoot... full niddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
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    If he understands maybe. I could not understand anything he was trying to say. ....crazy mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    my bottles are 300mg of test and 500mgs of deca and the niddle we use here in canada well the one i have uses mills...so i try to use a conversion calculator on another form and it said to use .8mill of test and .2 mill of deca is this not correct? And thank you for all your replays this is why i'm here to find and learn..
    we cant get what u saying man 500 mgs of deca . It ll most probably be 250 mg/ml or could be even less :/ u just have to fill the syringe till where its marked 1 if its 300mg/ml of test and do same with deca nd inject it
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    First Injection first Cycle possible side effect?-image-2664554369.jpg

    This will help... Get bf below 15% and then go for a beginner cycle... It shouldn't be hard if you are at 20% at 260!!! That is huge... Post your diet in the nutrition and let them critique it.. Good luck!
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    this is what I did 25mg/.2mill of deca and 250mg/.8mill of test together... witch seems low I was not above the 1 on the niddle combined and I wanna thank you guys and gals for all your patients...
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    Cape I think you meant 500 mg right ! Just to clear up for first dude!

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    Oops other dude fixed it haha !

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Fixed
    Thank you traffic lift changed was in a hurry. Mg not ml.

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    lol. This thread needs a major "Do Over".
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    Yeah I didn't understand the mg to every 1 mill so know that I do and we know how much I did it seems really low... 25mg of deca and 250mg of test isn't that a low dosage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    Yeah I didn't understand the mg to every 1 mill so know that I do and we know how much I did it seems really low... 25mg of deca and 250mg of test isn't that a low dosage?
    1 ML = 1 CC.

    Every compound comes in different concentrations. To make it easy, let's look at Pfizer's Testosterone Cypionate .

    They make 2 different concentrations of this compounds:

    Compound A: - 100 milligrams per Milliliter (This means, every ML contains 100 mg of testosterone )
    Compound B: - 200 milligrams per Milliliter (This means, every ML contains 200 mg of testosterone)

    So. If you take a syringe, and draw 1 ML from compound A, you will have a total of 100 mg of testosterone. If you wanted to inject 200 mg, you would draw 2 ML's

    If you have Compound B, and you wanted to inject 400 mg, you would draw 2 ML's, since each ML contains 200 mg each.

    So you see, when you speak of injections, mentioning the number of ML's you injected won't help because we do not know what compound you have.

    Capishe?
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    250 mgs tes is a good dose. 25 mgs of deca is just wasting it. Won't see anything from it, no growth factor, no joint lube, nothing. How familiar are you with deca? I see best results for growth at 400mgs or above per week. Maint dosing I like 150 to 200mgs per wk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    1 ML = 1 CC.

    Every compound comes in different concentrations. To make it easy, let's look at Pfizer's Testosterone Cypionate .

    They make 2 different concentrations of this compounds:

    Compound A: - 100 milligrams per Milliliter (This means, every ML contains 100 mg of testosterone )
    Compound B: - 200 milligrams per Milliliter (This means, every ML contains 200 mg of testosterone)

    So. If you take a syringe, and draw 1 ML from compound A, you will have a total of 100 mg of testosterone. If you wanted to inject 200 mg, you would draw 2 ML's

    If you have Compound B, and you wanted to inject 400 mg, you would draw 2 ML's, since each ML contains 200 mg each.

    So you see, when you speak of injections, mentioning the number of ML's you injected won't help because we do not know what compound you have.

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    Good post, that's where I was headed when you put it out.
    So OP what are you doing cycling and using steroid when you don't know how to run them. Where did you get this misinformation. Why would you do this....crazy mike

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    I understand that so the deca being .2 Milliliter and the test being .8 Milliliter seems like a low dosage regardless of the compounds concentrations..I'm using german labs both deca and test. and I'm no guinea pig the source has been tru tested multi people have been using the source for years and the seller uses his own stuff... witch is the question I ask.. do you use your own sh#t

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    I understand that so the deca being .2 Milliliter and the test being .8 Milliliter seems like a low dosage regardless of the compounds concentrations..I'm using german labs both deca and test. and I'm no guinea pig the source has been tru tested multi people have been using the source for years and the seller uses his own stuff... witch is the question I ask.. do you use your own sh#t
    Please stop saying .8 milliliter. And .2 millimeter
    What does it say on your bottle of test?
    What does it say on the deca?

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    ML doesn't matter only Mgs. Do you understand this. It does matter the concentrations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    I understand that so the deca being .2 Milliliter and the test being .8 Milliliter seems like a low dosage regardless of the compounds concentrations..I'm using german labs both deca and test. and I'm no guinea pig the source has been tru tested multi people have been using the source for years and the seller uses his own stuff... witch is the question I ask.. do you use your own sh#t
    The first thing you need is a lesson in math. This was explained. If 250mg/mL and you did .8mL then you did 200mg 80% of a mL Thus 80% of the 250mg Please you need to stop. You have no business doing this without knowing the simple basics. ...crazy mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Please stop saying .8 milliliter. And .2 millimeter
    What does it say on your bottle of test?
    What does it say on the deca?
    OP, do not upset Cape. Computer monitors have been known to crack.
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    STAY AWAY FROM STEROIDS . ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN'T MEASURE.

    I'm done here.
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    ^^^^^ lmao

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    Tonight at dinner I drank 1/2 lb of water.
    I try to drink 8 lbs of water a day.
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    ^^^^^ I had 400 MGS of salmon!!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Tonight at dinner I drank 1/2 lb of water.
    I try to drink 8 lbs of water a day.
    AND 1 gallon weights approx. 8lbs + a little ?? so you want to try to drink a round gallon of water.....hello ..................crazzzzy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    250 mgs tes is a good dose. 25 mgs of deca is just wasting it. Won't see anything from it, no growth factor, no joint lube, nothing. How familiar are you with deca? I see best results for growth at 400mgs or above per week. Maint dosing I like 150 to 200mgs per wk.
    the 25mg deca is daily... the 250mg of test is twice a week. but the original post was the symptoms I felt after.. that's what I'm trying to figure out but the dosage conversion mg to mills and so on caused confusion... witch I under stand now for Evey 1 mill is whatever the compounds concentration is... so a point of a mill would be breaking it down into smaller dosages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    the 25mg deca is daily... the 250mg of test is twice a week. but the original post was the symptoms I felt after.. that's what I'm trying to figure out but the dosage conversion mg to mills and so on caused confusion... witch I under stand now for Evey 1 mill is whatever the compounds concentration is... so a point of a mill would be breaking it down into smaller dosages.
    I have never had those symptoms. If you are ok then it's gone and you are ok. But you need to get an education about what you are doing. You shouldn't even be doing Deca on cycle (1) one . ...cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    The first thing you need is a lesson in math. This was explained. If 250mg/mL and you did .8mL then you did 200mg 80% of a mL Thus 80% of the 250mg Please you need to stop. You have no business doing this without knowing the simple basics. ...crazy mike
    thank you crazy I get that... so that's what I tried to say in a few post back that I didn't even do a high dosage... so why the symptoms witch only lasted for about 2.5 hours or 190 mins that was my main question..

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    STAY AWAY FROM STEROIDS . ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN'T MEASURE.

    I'm done here.
    will I appreciate the effort..

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    Something is off if your injections are causing confusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Dude you sure don't need to shoot deca every day, very long ester. Take that 175 mgs a wk in one shot, or double dose up and hit the same amount again every 3.5 days. And really dude I don't say this to very many people cause we all learned this stuff somewhere, but you need at least the basic understanding of the math, the language, the dosing and sched. of these compounds for any one to truly assist you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny7even View Post
    the 25mg deca is daily... the 250mg of test is twice a week. but the original post was the symptoms I felt after.. that's what I'm trying to figure out but the dosage conversion mg to mills and so on caused confusion... witch I under stand now for Evey 1 mill is whatever the compounds concentration is... so a point of a mill would be breaking it down into smaller dosages.
    What are you talking about. Milliliter is a measure of volume. Usually liquid
    Milligram is a measure of weight. Your not converting one to the other.
    Have you had any math class ?

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