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07-12-2013, 04:31 PM #1New Member
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07-12-2013, 04:41 PM #2
You should always take test, no matter what ester, as a base for a cycle. Taking any AAS will shut down your natural test production. Additionally, nolva is used for pct not an AI. And dbol can't be run for 11wks. No oral should be, too liver toxic
Read the stickeys you seem to have a lot to learn before you start anything.
Also, stats?
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Age
Goals
Training experience
Cycle experience? None I'm hoping
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07-12-2013, 04:46 PM #3New Member
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Im saying that i would take the dbol for the 6 weeks wait 2 weeks then start the nelva
Is there a test in tablet form?Last edited by youngchevy266; 07-12-2013 at 04:54 PM.
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07-12-2013, 05:22 PM #4
Taking any oral for longer than 4-5 weeks could potentially damage your liver. You could take the dbol for the first 4 weeks of your long ester test cycle as a "kick-start" but I do not recommend that because in the case that you experience bad side effects, you will not know which compound is doing what. It is therefore best to stick with just testosterone for your first cycle. Yes, there is such a thing as testosterone in tablet form. It is called testosterone undecanoate or Andriol (Andriol - Steroid .com)
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07-12-2013, 05:29 PM #5New Member
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I was just thinking of doing a single cycle and I should take andriol for about 5 weeks then wait 2 weeks then take nolva for 3 weeks correct?
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07-12-2013, 05:58 PM #6
Your 19 no steroids for you
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07-12-2013, 06:04 PM #7
Orals are never worth taking in my opinion. also it really sounds like your not close to ready for anything anyways. I suggest throw everything in the trash then learn how to eat right lift hard and read about what your next step should be in a couple years safely. It is not magic and it sounds like you’re just going to end up hurting yourself real bad
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07-12-2013, 06:07 PM #8New Member
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Im not 19 any more Im 21
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07-12-2013, 06:09 PM #9New Member
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I havnt updated my profile in a couple years
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07-12-2013, 06:18 PM #10
Still no
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07-12-2013, 06:26 PM #11
I'm out
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07-12-2013, 06:58 PM #12New Member
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Steroids are fine for you at 21 man. Afterall, what is the difference between 21 and 25?
Nothing except a bit of life experience
Since this is your first cycle, you gotta hit it hard.
I would recommend test e at 1g a week for 12 weeks
if you want an oral kicker, add in dbol at 75mg ED.
You have to fully saturate your receptors, so you will gain the most.
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07-12-2013, 07:01 PM #13
Umm 4 years lol
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07-12-2013, 07:54 PM #19
Stop trolling and giving bad advice. Jesus... Ban this turd already
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07-12-2013, 07:54 PM #20New Member
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Whatever arbitrary difference there may be in the development of your endocrine system between 21 and 25 pales in comparison to the four years you would lose being natty during this time. Seriously, look at it from a risk-reward standpoint. Are there any risks from starting gear at a younger age? Possible but unlikely. "Endocrine damage" is a term thrown around by people who have no evidence to back it up, it's usually pretty damn theoretical. The gains you'll get? Pretty damn real. Ideally, start much earlier than 21. Like many great bodybuilders have
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07-12-2013, 07:58 PM #21New Member
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07-12-2013, 08:01 PM #22
I thought i had a narrow mind but man your view on this is a thin as a peice of hair. If this is how you choose to see it that fine but not how we do it around here.
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07-12-2013, 08:05 PM #23New Member
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07-12-2013, 08:05 PM #24~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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07-12-2013, 08:06 PM #25New Member
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07-12-2013, 08:07 PM #26Originally Posted by Gabeanator
I started at 20 and a half by the time I was at 26 bam started to feel fatigued and losing hair like no tomorrow..been on TrT since I was 27 and it took like 3 years for it to be dialed in cuz my endo was a dummy....
I was already a big guy, 5'11" 225lbs around 16% no I needed more and nothing won't happen to me... Shit my balls didn't shrink till I was 26 also!!
Endocrine don't mature to around 24-25 years old... I suppressed mine by using AAS...
I say REAL life experience is better than theory in my opinion!!
There are numerous guys on this forum especially in the hrt threads that the same thing happened to them...
Listen or don't, if I could go back I would!!!
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07-12-2013, 08:14 PM #28New Member
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You did start at 16% bodyfat, that's pretty high tbh. Probably should've started leaner, you certainly wouldn't have been as fatigued. Did you keep estrogen in balance with an AI? Did you ever go off test at any point?
As for losing hair, that has nothing to do with your age or the endocrine system. It has to do with your scalp being genetically sensitive to androgens. Actually, this gets worse with age. You're much more likely to juice yourself bald at 30 than 20
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07-12-2013, 08:19 PM #29Originally Posted by Gabeanator
I can already tell you won't be here long... I'm not here to argue with you, I've been here awhile.... Again your only 18 and yet you know everything...
The saying goes young dumb and full of cum... I was there just trying to help someone out...Last edited by FONZY007; 07-12-2013 at 08:22 PM.
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07-12-2013, 08:21 PM #30New Member
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07-12-2013, 08:22 PM #32Originally Posted by hughjarms
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07-12-2013, 08:23 PM #33
Why is the aligator always angry?
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07-12-2013, 08:24 PM #34Originally Posted by Gabeanator
There called cycles, you cycle off you don't stay on the test forever!! I was off everything for over 6 months I believe when I started to feel fatigued meaning, I would sleep 12-16 hours a day and work 8 and that's all I was able to do until I got check and my test came back at 67ng/ml
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07-12-2013, 08:28 PM #36New Member
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I recommend you to do pct next time
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Maybe even throw some exemestane in there at 25mg every day
Don't blame your negligence on steroids kid, not doing pct will screw you up at any age
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07-12-2013, 08:29 PM #37Originally Posted by slaytonslayer
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07-12-2013, 08:30 PM #38Originally Posted by hughjarms
I used pct every time and I mean every time...
And now that I'm on TRT I won't never need to fiddle with pct... So I'm good at my age
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07-12-2013, 08:32 PM #39New Member
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07-12-2013, 08:32 PM #40Originally Posted by Gabeanator
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