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    Mr Mercer is offline New Member
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    Lock This In or Make Changes?

    So I'm still a little ways out as my bf% is still almost 20% and I'm waiting to get blood work. That said Iíve spent months reading here and have finally decided itís time to be a member and start posting. Iíve noticed through my research that a ton of information has evolved and Iíve also noticed a lot of information seems to be cut and paste from banned users. A little concerning but with such a large and knowledgeable community I was able to pull out a ton of great information. With what Iíve learned and have access to this is my plan.
    Wks 1-10 test e at 400/wk w/bi weekly inj.
    Wks 1-10 hGC at 500/wk w/bi weekly inj. (should this be wks 1-12?)
    Wk 1-12 letro 0.25ED (this one is all over the place for information, should this be ext through wk 16?)
    Wk 13-16 (4 wks total) Clomid 75/50/50/50 ED
    Wk 13-16 (4 wks total) Tamox 40/40/20/20 ED
    So only using newer information posted in the last 6 mo. this is what Iíve come up with. I know a lot of this has to do with exp. and learning what is right for an individual, and as far as exp goes I have not at this point other than what Iíve seen around me but not personally. I guess what Iím really looking for is anything that is overly concerning in what Iím considering and maybe a link to the information as to why, and may your thoughts on how I may have got the information wrong. Thanks, try to take it easy on me but donít hold back information.

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    Welcome,

    I have absolutely no idea where you get the idea that "a lot of info is cut and paste from banned members". This is far from the truth and frankly, banned members are not banned due to lack of knowledge, which is why we keep their posts and threads available to you. Probably not the best way to start a first post, but let me see how I can be of service to you...

    Before we continue, we'll need your stats. Your profile indicates that you're 30 years old. Please provide your height. I know you're not ready yet, but give us an idea of your planned starting weight and expected body fat percentage. Lastly, how long have you been lifting consistently?

    Thanks.
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    Yeah I figured that might be received wrong, what I meant was a lot of the same information is moving around but some of it seems outdated and then being said again or old threads being bumped or linked. It actually wasn't meant to be offensive at all, what I was trying to get to is I did pay attention as things seemed to evolve and the information changed over time as I've read through threads. I've found a ton of great information, but some doesn't agree with other, another thing which I think is a side effect of information being acquired here over time. So if it was offensive it wasn't meant to be at all. Actually your one of the posters that seems to be spot on and I'm very happy to see you've come across my post. So I'm currently hover just over or at 20%bf and I'm 5'11. I've been consistently working out for about 18mo but I've been locked in solid with a good trainer for almost a year. I do get information from him but I can't help myself and started researching myself. My plan is to drop under 15% before starting what I've posted above. So I have some time to keep reading, and hey maybe I'll post some more and learn how to write sentences to say what I mean :]
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    No problem, I apologize if I misunderstood.

    Great call on dropping the BF, you'll certainly have a more manageable cycle when you're ready. Here are my pointers for you...

    1. Hopefully you'll have at least 2 to 3 years experience when you're ready.
    2. hCG should be the entire cycle. If injecting Testosterone , inject hCG.
    3. Letro is not a beginner's blocker. You're safer using Arimidex .
    4. Cycle length would be worthwhile if extended to 12 weeks.
    5. PCT Protocol s not bad, but needs tweaking, I'll explain below.

    This is how your first cycle should look like, if I were your coach:

    Week 1 to 12 - Testosterone Enanthate @ 200 mg's injected every 3.5 days (Total 400 mg per week)
    Week 1 to 12 - hCG @ 250 iu injected twice weekly (Total 500 iu)
    Week 1 to 14 - Arimidex @ 0.25mg Every Other Day (That's a quarter of a milligram)

    Post Cycle Therapy starts 2 weeks after your last Testosterone injection, or the day after your last Arimidex dose. It should look like the following...

    Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20 & Clomid @ 75/50/50/50

    I'm sure you've read that diet is key here. Steroids merely amplify the effects of your diet. So if your goal is to cut, you'll need to go into a caloric deficit, and the opposite for bulking. All while minding your macronutrient breakdown.

    Hope this helps and best of luck to you. Enjoy your stay.
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    Great information, and thanks for pointing out letro vs Arimidex . Could you clarify if the hCG should run all the way to PCT or stop with the main cycle at 12 wks? Again thanks for taking the time to respond to me, I think I'll be at the timeline you were thinking by the time I'm able to cut the %.

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    You can stop hCG at the end of the 12th week. So during the 2 week wait for PCT, the only thing you're taking is Arimidex .
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