second cycle advice

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 12:46 PM

stats age 21
weight 198 lbs
bf%- 12-13%
training -4 years
first cycle dbol (30 mg ed-5 weeks) + test (500mg ew)1-12 wk

second cycle
400 mg deca 1-12 wk
450 mg eq (1-10 weeks) frontload 900 mg (for first 2 weeks)
test e 500 mg 1-14 wk

ai-letro(0.25) eod,arimidex (0.25) ed
prolactin control-prami - 0.25 ed

PCT clomid- 100/50/50/25
nolvadex -40/20/20/10

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 04:57 PM

bump

**ChiveOn** · 07-17-2013, 05:29 PM

You're way too young to be on your second cycle. Not only that but your frontload has you at over 2grams of hear a week?! That's a rediculous dose for someone so early on. Why throwing so much in at once

**kronik420** · 07-17-2013, 05:34 PM

how much did you gain and keep from your first?

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 05:38 PM

about 30 lbs(+water weight) kept 22 lbs

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

You're way too young to be on your second cycle. Not only that but your frontload has you at over 2grams of hear a week?! That's a rediculous dose for someone so early on. Why throwing so much in at once

eq is a long ester and takes about 8-12 weeks to kick in so i m thinking of frontloading it that way it ll kick in way early around week 5 or 6

**kronik420** · 07-17-2013, 05:42 PM

as above, you are too young to be cycling.. you could be causing yourself some long term permanent damage....

but if you do decide to cycle again. drop the eq and the letro

**kronik420** · 07-17-2013, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

eq is a long ester and takes about 8-12 weeks to kick in so i m thinking of frontloading it that way it ll kick in way early around week 5 or 6

not to mention, it's a waste of oil... you can use it to oil up your bike chain or door hinges if you want..

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by kronik420

as above, you are too young to be cycling.. you could be causing yourself some long term permanent damage....

but if you do decide to cycle again. drop the eq and the letro

alright ll use it in next cycle .i got horrible sides from high estrogen last cycle so i was thinking of running letro with arimi

**kronik420** · 07-17-2013, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

alright ll use it in next cycle .i got horrible sides from high estrogen last cycle so i was thinking of running letro with arimi

just up the Adex..

also a good idea to get blood work done before, during, and after your cycles...

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by kronik420

just up the Adex..

also a good idea to get blood work done before, during, and after your cycles...

blood work is hella expensive where i live .

**kronik420** · 07-17-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

blood work is hella expensive where i live .

but cheaper than things like gyno reversal surgery...

**ksingh93** · 07-17-2013, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by kronik420

but cheaper than things like gyno reversal surgery...

thats free insurance ll cover it

**qscgugcsq** · 07-17-2013, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

thats free insurance ll cover it

Lol XD

but I agree with you on the fact that you prefer crash E2 than having too much.
However letro and arimidex is WAY OVERKILL!

And I won't bash you for your age because I'm twenty however I disagree but understand...

If last cycle you had .25ED of arimidex you could up it to .25/.5/.25/.5 or .75 EOD (I prefer ED...)
If it's too much then drop it a bit, and play with your E2 until you find your sweet spot.

If you already have EQ then drop the deca and use your EQ... Will increase your appetite, always help on bulking.
You may wanna give blood before and after cycle. EQ will raise that hematocrite...

You should add HCG 250UI 2x/week week 1-16

Your planned cycle minus the letro, plus HCG, seems ok