Test Prop, Tren Ace, with anadrol kickstart Advice

[Erockizzle]

Stats:

Age: 26
Weight: 190
BF% 10
Diet: Clean - 4200-4500 cals daily

Goals:
- Compete in NPC bodybuilding Competition around next July

Cycle #1 (Bulk) Starting in November 2013 Ending end of Jan 2014
Week 1-6 Anadrol @ 50mg ED & Anavar @ 20mg ED (using the anavar to protect connective tissue from gains on A-bombs)
Test Prop 100ml EOD weeks 1-12
Tren Ace 75ml EOD weeks 1-12
HCG 250 IU 2x week weeks 1-12
A-dex .5mg eod Weeks 1-12 (if sides occur)
Caber @ .5mg 2x week Weeks 1-12 (whether sides or not)

HCG blast week 13
Week 13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
Week 13-16 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 13-16 Natty test boosters OTC


Cycle 2
Test/Tren/Mast

--When should I start this cycle and what are suggested doses to to prep for BB competition? if previous cycle will start Nov 2013 and end Feb 1st 2014. PTC will be run for 4 weeks after, then I will be looking to start my cutting cycle/ adding some more lean mass. Just curious as to when the 2nd cycle should start as I want to compete around July of next year and when i do compete should I be mid cycle or not?


Please any advice on the above info is greatly appreciated.


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[< <Samson> >]

LoL

Please post up some of your previous cycle experience. TA for 12 weeks < ? 2 Orals at the same time < ? 20mg QD of Var < What r u trying to achieve?

[Erockizzle]

I was originally going to do TA for 8 weeks and was told weeks 8-12 are the most beneficial. Was not going to run the var but someone told me my joints and connective tissue would be at risk since my strength gains would go through the roof. I have 3 cycles under my belt all with sust 250 and sust 350. last cycle i added var at 80mg for 7 weeks. No need to laugh, as this is the basis of my post -- "advice"-- thanks

[Erockizzle]

sorry * 2 cycles not 3*

[< <Samson> >]

I would reevaluate what you are trying to do

No TA for 12 weeks

No 2 orals at the same time


To each is own though, it's not like this shit is prescribed

[Erockizzle]

also ran hcg and adex through both cycles

[Erockizzle]

Main goal is to bulk up a lot then cut down to about 205ish come contest time. How long would you suggest TA and at what dose? Also, what should I do to protect my joints from the anadrol ...or should I just use anavar instead of anadrol?

Thx

[Erockizzle]

Also I can post pics if you want to see where I am at now--

[< <Samson> >]

This was my next bulker which I might not run. drol for 4 weeks, 650mg of test along with 400mg of deca & 200mg of tren e - all of this for 90-100 days < This is a damn good bulk combo, I don't think anything else can be more beneficial for mass

Next cuter would be, 60 days of tren ace @ 75mg QD, 50mg of Prop QD and kick started with 4 weeks of drol. Or - - - - Drop the drol and add 4 weeks of 50mg+ QD of Var

[Erockizzle]

could i stick with tren ace and test prop for my bulk? I like the shorter esters as I heard sides are not as bad and if bad signs occur the half-life is less. I have heard Tren/Test/Deca is awesome though

[< <Samson> >]

could i stick with tren ace and test prop for my bulk? I like the shorter esters as I heard sides are not as bad and if bad signs occur the half-life is less. I have heard Tren/Test/Deca is awesome though

I don't know bro, but the short esters are mainly for shorter cycles or for loading/deloading


I have not heard of anyone running short esters together on a long bulk + it's a lot of pinning.

[spiralkut]

The problem with running 2 orals at the same time is your going to ruin your liver. If you are worried about your joints go buy glucosamine and start taking it 1 month prior to your cycle, Much safer and better for your body. The next problem you have is the prop shouldnt be at a higher dose to the tren . The rule of thumb is Time on = Time off as a minimum. So if your running that cycle for 12 weeks then you should be taking 12 weeks off.