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    Questions about HGH, insulin etc

    I did several steroid cycles, but came at a point, were I think 2 steroid cycles a year are too much for my health.
    This year I want to fully recover, and stay away until next summer.
    But I was curious about HGH and similars.
    I know there are several peptides:
    Kigtropin and ********** as long as I know are HGH.
    Then we have IGF-1 LR3
    GHRP6
    GHRP2
    CJC-1295
    Ipamorelin
    Insulin

    I want to try something out, read a bit about this compounds, and all should have less sort term sides then steroids , but it seems there are risks of long term sides.
    My biggest concern is hyperplasia, that could lead to heart growth, HGH gut and some other unwanted growth sides.
    I heard stories about big bellies due internal organs growth.
    Steroids only do hypertrophy, so after discontinuing the drug, they should shrink back at more or less normal size.
    Which compound is less aggressive on internal organs in terms of growth?
    With what should I start with, and a dose, were I could see some results, but control unwanted growth???
    Thanks!!!

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    Are your stats in your profile accurate? You seem pretty light.
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    Really? Seriously? You still don't get it? WTF do you think any compound is going to do for you if you are absolutely, positively clueless as to diet? What advice do you you think you are going to get from anybody here after the debacles that are every single one of your AAS cycles?

    You appear to have trouble negotiating around this site. I'm going to post some links for you. They are the ONLY 2 areas on this website that you need to look at. Until a few years down the line when you can look at our TRT section. For now

    http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-resource-forum/

    http://forums.steroid.com/lifting-te...out-questions/

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    I did several steroid cycles, but came at a point, were I think 2 steroid cycles a year are too much for my health.
    This year I want to fully recover, and stay away until next summer.
    But I was curious about HGH and similars.
    I know there are several peptides:
    Kigtropin and ********** as long as I know are HGH.
    Then we have IGF-1 LR3
    GHRP6
    GHRP2
    CJC-1295
    Ipamorelin
    Insulin

    I want to try something out, read a bit about this compounds, and all should have less sort term sides then steroids , but it seems there are risks of long term sides.
    My biggest concern is hyperplasia, that could lead to heart growth, HGH gut and some other unwanted growth sides.
    I heard stories about big bellies due internal organs growth.
    Steroids only do hypertrophy, so after discontinuing the drug, they should shrink back at more or less normal size.
    Which compound is less aggressive on internal organs in terms of growth?
    With what should I start with, and a dose, were I could see some results, but control unwanted growth???
    Thanks!!!

    I need something to do hypertrophy to my schlong. What should I use that won't also make my spleen too big!!! LOL!! Sorry, but sometimes you just got to make yourself laugh!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    is that not true??
    anyways, please give me an answer to my question.

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    just eat more food and lift, you will grow with out the use of any drugs

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    Definition of DIET

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    a : food and drink regularly provided or consumed
    b : habitual nourishment
    c : the kind and amount of food prescribed for a person or animal for a special reason
    d : a regimen of eating and drinking sparingly so as to reduce one's weight <going on a diet>
    2
    : something provided or experienced repeatedly <a diet of Broadway shows and nightclubs — Frederick Wyatt>
    Origin of DIET

    Middle English diete, from Anglo-French, from Latin diaeta, from Greek diaita, literally, manner of living, from diaitasthai to lead one's life
    First Known Use: 13th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Definition of DIET

    1
    a : food and drink regularly provided or consumed
    b : habitual nourishment
    c : the kind and amount of food prescribed for a person or animal for a special reason
    d : a regimen of eating and drinking sparingly so as to reduce one's weight <going on a diet>
    2
    : something provided or experienced repeatedly <a diet of Broadway shows and nightclubs ó Frederick Wyatt>
    Origin of DIET

    Middle English diete, from Anglo-French, from Latin diaeta, from Greek diaita, literally, manner of living, from diaitasthai to lead one's life
    First Known Use: 13th century
    ???
    Just stop with the diet thing, my diet is ok, its not perfect, but the perfection won't give me a big difference.
    I'm at a point, where Proteins are higher than requested, carbs and fats are at a perfect balance, between, gaining some weight at beginning of the week, and get extremely lean for the weekend, when I go to some festivals. I have the genetics that I have, can't do nothing natural about that, if you are all lucky that you diet does miracles, good for you, but I see some avatars, and even the most important members, doesn't look much better than me, lets start with Atomini, the man of tren , I respect him alot, I learned very much from him, and he always gave me all the answers I needed, but if its him on the avatar, I wouldnít say, he did so many test-tren cycles, he looks more like a natural mesomorph under a bulking diet, I canít even see some abs in the avatar.
    Maybe its not him on the avatar, maybe, its him, with a very bad lightning were you canít appreciate the leaness.
    And I could go on with many others, so where is your diet??? I think for many here, the only goal is to get huge, be the biggest on the forum, for me not, first because I wonít ever be the biggest one, second, because Iím looking for attention from girls.
    I appreciate your help, by giving me hints about the diet, but I swear, you would help me more simply by quitting me doubts. Because I know my body better than everyone, and Iím not crying about my genetics, Iím very proud, I know Iíll have a hard time to gain some muscles, and without roids its somehow impossible, but I get lean very fast, and thatís very important when it comes to be lean.
    I wouldnít change my genetics with the most here, so donít say I cry because Iím skinnyfat.

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    So how did the dbol and increased sodium do for your "I want bloat not mass" problem
    Fella your a mess and a fvcking joke
    The fact you think anyone here will help you and your messed up cycles are a joke!
    Take your sh1t elsewhere and leave this for people who actually want to learn

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    Post your diet including cals and macro's.

    Gaining weight at the start of the week and then cutting for weekends??? Are you seriously for real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Post your diet including cals and macro's.

    Gaining weight at the start of the week and then cutting for weekends??? Are you seriously for real?

    You my friend have fortitude.

    I'm with Pann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Post your diet including cals and macro's.

    Gaining weight at the start of the week and then cutting for weekends??? Are you seriously for real?
    Exactly what I was thinking.

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    ok, please let's go back to the topic.
    are heart growth and inner organs growth a real issue with this compounds??
    is there any listed compound that acts only on muscle tissue growth without touching other tissues??
    or is this an issue only for heavy hormones users like pro BBs??
    thanks!

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    What have you eaten so far today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    What have you eaten so far today?
    Now Cape, that's irrelevant, it's all about how much health damaging compounds that you put into your body that counts

    Go ahead Andrea, run your experiment. Come back in 12 months and wonder (even if you do get genuine hgh) why you still haven't gained any weight but your gut is sticking out. Oh, let's get a close up of your 'hulk' forehead at that time. Not forgetting pics of your desperate Dan chin.

    Andrea after all the cycles you have ran you should be 220lbs or more. Come on, what are you afraid of? post up your lean bulk diet plan, this is your last chance.
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    Found him.......Questions about HGH, insulin etc-image.jpg

    This is today's meal plan......Questions about HGH, insulin etc-image.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    is that not true??
    anyways, please give me an answer to my question.
    Your question has been answered repeatedly since post #3. Did you not like the answer? Well then just keep posting thread after thread and asking again and again until you get the answer you want. Or, just give yourself the answer you want and quit wasting everyone's time. You can't possibly know the first thing about eating to gain LBM while telling people you bulk Mon-Thurs then cut for the weekend for a festival (WTF?). Your making yourself sound like an idiot. Then the icing on the cake is to start to criticize other guy's Avatar's. Now you look like an idiot AND a douche bag. I haven't bothered to read all your previous threads/posts but I have a pretty good idea they're along the lines of "I eat 4000 calories and still weight 150 lbs."

    Muscle is made from food, not hormones. Period. Look no further. This is a fact. You might be able to find some 16 year old over on bodybuilding.com that will tell you otherwise but it doesn't change the fact. Besides, you don't want to end up with a giant heart and forehead and no balls and dick, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Post your diet including cals and macro's.

    Gaining weight at the start of the week and then cutting for weekends??? Are you seriously for real?
    LOL calm down boss. you are little edgy today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich

    LOL calm down boss. you are little edgy today!
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    no idea abt HGH stuff.. and u dont seem to be getting any answers.. so go ask google.. loads and loads of info out there..

    but take a page from all the posts above and have a solid base of nutrition and training before u embark on ur journey..

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    all what guys said here is true. but if you dont want to listen to them, then go ahead and experiment on your self but plz dont run Insulin . it literally can kill you
    alot of people died from using it... it needs person with vast knowledge and its for advanced level bodybuilders

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    I lift heavy and so does my brother. He's older and filled Me in completely on hgh Im ten years younger. Im 25. Im all set with hgh...maybe when I'm 30+ il stick with test dbol deca all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    all what guys said here is true. but if you dont want to listen to them, then go ahead and experiment on your self but plz dont run Insulin . it literally can kill you
    alot of people died from using it... it needs person with vast knowledge and its for advanced level bodybuilders
    I agree

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    lol funny how people are afraid of hyperplasia because of possible unwanted growth and still they are or have been juicing. As if hypertrophy doesnt cause unwanted organ growth and or increase the growth of tumors and cancer. Many steroids are hyperplasic and hypertrophic, just because GH and growth factors are primarily anabolic through hyperplasia doesnt make them more dangerous. and in addition, growth hormone therapy can be applied even when patients suffer some types of cancer because GH doesnt affect. But there are certain tumors that grow at 55 times the rate on GH vs off, but still no matter what stuff you use there are limitations to what tissue you can choose to/or stop- from growing.

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