TRT vs AAS

[Nicholas1]

What should I use as my first cycle testosterone replacement therapy or an aas stack with test e or test prop, an ai for estrogen blocker and a good pct...? Any Imput from the experts would be much appreciated, thank you.. Additional info my height is 6'1 I'm 18 160 lbs with a 10 to 12 percent body fat I am injured I will start cycle in a month or two when I get back in the gym thanks guys

[kronik420]

you do not need AAS...

you need food...

[Lunk1]

Are you familiar with the edocrine systaem and what it does? Do you understand 100% what the use of steroids at your age could do to your development?

[MickeyKnox]

I agree with the two above: too young and too light bro.

[Nicholas1]

I know it can stop natural test production before I was injured I worked out 9 times a week and usually ate 4 to 5 thousand calories with 80 to 100 grams of protein I am just looking for perhaps a massive spike in testosterone levels for like 6 months to a year one or two cycles at most would that permenately stunt my naturally test production?

[kronik420]

I know it can stop natural test production before I was injured I worked out 9 times a week and usually ate 4 to 5 thousand calories with 80 to 100 grams of protein I am just looking for perhaps a massive spike in testosterone levels for like 6 months to a year one or two cycles at most would that permenately stunt my naturally test production?

more than likely, you will do more harm than good...

[Nicholas1]

Well any suggestions besides food?

[kronik420]

Well any suggestions besides food?

eat and train

if you eat right and train hard, in the next 12 months or so, you should be able to hit 200 lbs easy...

[kronik420]

whats your injury?

and post your 4-5000 kcal diet.. the first thing you need to work on is your diet.. unless you injured your jaw you should still be able to eat..

[Lunk1]

It can do more than stop your natty test production. Right now your at a peak for test production...why swap that out for synthetic test?

Please do some research tonight on the endocrine system and what happens if you halt it's development through AAS use.

[Nicholas1]

Shit well that is good to hear I have had a hard time recently I had a very bad surgery when I get back in the gym what sups would you suggest what do you think about sleep recovery sups ?

[Nicholas1]

Knee surgery I would eat lots of dark green vegetables and low fat meats and about 30 mg or less of mono unsaturated fats as well as krill oil and multivitamins

[Lunk1]

Shit well that is good to hear I have had a hard time recently I had a very bad surgery when I get back in the gym what sups would you suggest what do you think about sleep recovery sups ?

May I ask what the surgery was for?

I would get some creatine, some good protein, BCAA's and fish oil...then eat and train like a fukn monster.

[Nicholas1]

I have used natural test boosters in the past can that damage test production?

[frank13]

i was 145-150 pounds right out of high school and when i started to really get into it i jumped up to 200 pounds in no time before using

[kronik420]

Shit well that is good to hear I have had a hard time recently I had a very bad surgery when I get back in the gym what sups would you suggest what do you think about sleep recovery sups ?

creatine, 5g pre and post workout

everything else you should be able to get from food.. don't waste too much $$ on supps..

[kronik420]

I have used natural test boosters in the past can that damage test production?

like tribulus? no...

[Lunk1]

I have used natural test boosters in the past can that damage test production?

Some of the Prohormones and such can cause serious issues. Use what god gave ya...many of us would die to have the test levels of an 18 yo again (year round lol)

[Nicholas1]

I have all of those but I prefer krill oil I've had two knee surgeries my more recent one was more severe I had mpfl reconstruction, two srews( or nails) and the moved my fibula or tibula I can't remember which but they moved it a few millimeters

[Lunk1]

I have all of those but I prefer krill oil I've had two knee surgeries my more recent one was more severe I had mpfl reconstruction, two srews( or nails) and the moved my fibula or tibula I can't remember which but they moved it a few millimeters

Can you still squat/leg press? Sounds serious.

[kronik420]

Can you still squat/leg press? Sounds serious.

definitely confirm with your doc on what you can/can't do exercise wise...

[Nicholas1]

Thanks I have used force factor x180 t bomb ii and that's it aside from other standard sups like vitamins whey creatine, how can I avoid kidney stones from creatine I drink a lot of water but I have always been scared to use more then 5 grams of creatine a day.

[Nicholas1]

I will start doing leg press in a month I had surgery 3 weeks ago I'm sure I will be squatting about 150 in 3 to 4 months

[kronik420]

Thanks I have used force factor x180 t bomb ii and that's it aside from other standard sups like vitamins whey creatine, how can I avoid kidney stones from creatine I drink a lot of water but I have always been scared to use more then 5 grams of creatine a day.

i dont think kidney stones is really an issue with creatine use...

ive used 10+ grams of creatine per day for almost a year straight now and have had no issues...

[kronik420]

I will start doing leg press in a month I had surgery 3 weeks ago I'm sure I will be squatting about 150 in 3 to 4 months

just make sure you ask your doc if this is ok before you hit the gym again...

[Lunk1]

Wife just got outa the shower so it horizontal cardio time...Kronik has ya under control here. Please do that edocrine system research I asked. You sure dont want to stunt or damage potential growth. Best of luck and stick around. Tons of great info here and great ppl willing to share many years of collective knowledge.

By the way...I retail/rep Force Factor lol. It's junk......

[Nicholas1]

Yea I am in physical therapy and I have regular appointments with my orthopedic surgeon thanks guys

[Nicholas1]

I'm still getting used to how this website works I have not even had one notification yet so it's hard for me to realize when people respond/reply to my posts and threads and such thanks guys

[kronik420]

Wife just got outa the shower so it horizontal cardio time...Kronik has ya under control here. Please do that edocrine system research I asked. You sure dont want to stunt or damage potential growth. Best of luck and stick around. Tons of great info here and great ppl willing to share many years of collective knowledge.

By the way...I retail/rep Force Factor lol. It's junk......

since its nice and clean, stick it in her pooper

[Nicholas1]

I'm sure all of the natural test boosters are junk compared to cycles with aas and ai's

[kronik420]

I'm sure all of the natural test boosters are junk compared to cycles with aas and ai's

they are..

but neither of them you should be worrying about for the next 5 years or so...

[kronik420]

read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...%2A%2A%2A.html

[Nicholas1]

How does the membership ranking work new member junior member anabolic member is there a forum or thread that explains the basics of the website in general?

[frank13]

Wife just got outa the shower so it horizontal cardio time...Kronik has ya under control here. Please do that edocrine system research I asked. You sure dont want to stunt or damage potential growth. Best of luck and stick around. Tons of great info here and great ppl willing to share many years of collective knowledge.

By the way...I retail/rep Force Factor lol. It's junk......

pics or it didn't happen

[OnTheSauce]

The guys in blue or red were mod picked for contributions they made to the forums. Not monetarily, just knowledge and helping out. The standard titles are by post count

[frank13]

How does the membership ranking work new member junior member anabolic member is there a forum or thread that explains the basics of the website in general?

im the only Expert on this site

[Nicholas1]

Is it true that after you bulk and you start to cut you can easily lose a lot of muscle mass is that where the lean bulking comes from?

[Papa Smurf]

What should I use as my first cycle testosterone replacement therapy or an aas stack with test e or test prop, an ai for estrogen blocker and a good pct...? Any Imput from the experts would be much appreciated, thank you.. Additional info my height is 6'1 I'm 18 160 lbs with a 10 to 12 percent body fat I am injured I will start cycle in a month or two when I get back in the gym thanks guys

TRT is what you will be on for the rest of your life, if you start using gear at 18, just to answer your question

[kronik420]

Is it true that after you bulk and you start to cut you can easily lose a lot of muscle mass is that where the lean bulking comes from?

when done correctly, you should be able to keep your LBM while loosing body fat..

[Nicholas1]

Very informative but it doesn't talk about slow vs fast twitch muscle fibers slow is for bulking and fast is for cutting?