Help with first test cycle

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 12:19 PM

I have been on testosterone enanthate for about 10 weeks and i see a couple things happening that i am not too pleased with.

first off i have gained about 15 lbs but feel really bloated and fat. I used to be really ripped but now my lower abs won't show and my abs feel softer. Is this from holding on to water weight or estrogen ?

second off my right nipple feels sensitive, someone i know suggested an anti estrogen to dry up and not feel sensitive. if so what are some good ones that work ?

Any other suggestions on cycling anything else with test e for getting ripped and shredded ? thanks

**austinite** · 07-25-2013, 12:27 PM

Welcome, Pacman!

What is your current body fat percentage, height and weight?

"Bloating" is generally an issue with excess estrogen and/or a diet related problem. Are you currently using any type of estrogen blocker? Nipple issue could be early stages of gynecomastia development.

Please share with us also how much testosterone you're using and if you plan on getting any blood work to check your estrogen.

Thanks and enjoy your stay!

**Gaspaco** · 07-25-2013, 12:28 PM

What are your stats and whole cycle plan?

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 04:51 PM

I am 5'11"" and now weigh 188. I was 175 ripped before I started the test. As of now I am only on 1 cc every 2 weeks and will start 1 cc every week starting next week. I am not on anything else nor any estrogen blockers.

**DexterMorgan** · 07-25-2013, 04:59 PM

1cc every 2 weeks? so you're doing 62 mgs per injection? thats a TRT dose, you pretty much replaced your natural production with something your body already makes or close to.
You have to use estrogen blockers during your cycle. This is why you're bloated and developing gyno.
Do you have SERMS for PCT on hand?
How old are you?

You need to stop this cycle.

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by DexterMorgan

1cc every 2 weeks? so you're doing 62 mgs per injection? thats a TRT dose, you pretty much replaced your natural production with something your body already makes or close to.
You have to use estrogen blockers during your cycle. This is why you're bloated and developing gyno.
Do you have SERMS for PCT on hand?
How old are you?

You need to stop this cycle.

The reason I am on test is because my dr prescribed it for me. I lost sexual desire and was feeling weak all the time. I am 28 years old and this was a very odd case for them. My test levels are beyond low so they started me on test replacement therapy with 1 cc or 1 ml every 2 weeks. I know this is a low dose so that's why I am going to do 1 ml every week. I just don't know much about test and what else to take with it. I have no idea what your talking about with the abbreviations and would like help please. I used to be ripped and maintain a strict diet, I've been working out for 14 years and never felt this fat or bloated. What estrogen blocker do you recommend ? What is SERMS ?

And also while I am on this for medical reasons I also want to reep the benifits from it so what all do I need to do or take with it to get really ripped again. ? Thanks

**Bio-Active** · 07-25-2013, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

The reason I am on test is because my dr prescribed it for me. I lost sexual desire and was feeling weak all the time. I am 28 years old and this was a very odd case for them. My test levels are beyond low so they started me on test replacement therapy with 1 cc or 1 ml every 2 weeks. I know this is a low dose so that's why I am going to do 1 ml every week. I just don't know much about test and what else to take with it. I have no idea what your talking about with the abbreviations and would like help please. I used to be ripped and maintain a strict diet, I've been working out for 14 years and never felt this fat or bloated. What estrogen blocker do you recommend ? What is SERMS ?

And also while I am on this for medical reasons I also want to reep the benifits from it so what all do I need to do or take with it to get really ripped again. ? Thanks

The AI is used to control estrogen. Most either use arimidex or aromasin . How long have you been on trt? I suggest you wait to start changing anything on your trt program as your dr is going to want to run labs often to try and get your Testosterone levels stable and within range. Changing anything now will give false readings for your dr.

**TestAce** · 07-25-2013, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

The reason I am on test is because my dr prescribed it for me. I lost sexual desire and was feeling weak all the time. I am 28 years old and this was a very odd case for them. My test levels are beyond low so they started me on test replacement therapy with 1 cc or 1 ml every 2 weeks. I know this is a low dose so that's why I am going to do 1 ml every week. I just don't know much about test and what else to take with it. I have no idea what your talking about with the abbreviations and would like help please. I used to be ripped and maintain a strict diet, I've been working out for 14 years and never felt this fat or bloated. What estrogen blocker do you recommend ? What is SERMS ?

And also while I am on this for medical reasons I also want to reep the benifits from it so what all do I need to do or take with it to get really ripped again. ? Thanks

Oh man, did your doctor not talk to you about all the possible side effects and how to counteract them? You should talk to him about aromatase inhibitors and tell him that you are experiencing side effects from the Enanthate . Also, since your blood is being monitored I wouldn't start adding things in without the approval of your doctor.

**crazy mike** · 07-25-2013, 06:22 PM

This is a mess. If you went to a doctor and he prescribed and you are experiencing unwanted sides why are you not in your doctor's face. AS was said anything you do on your own will give other readings and change your doctor's program ( if any). So you need him/her to start you on something, not yourself. This until you decide to walk away from this treatment altogether. IMOP take nothing, but your phone and call this a$$hole and get into see him ASAP...like now. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 07-25-2013, 06:27 PM

Pacman in the meantime, you need to read up and study this about AI and Gyno and what Testosterone does and how it acts so you can monitor and discuss what your doctor is doing. You need to have a good understanding of these things. Go with god speed to your doc, ha! ...crazy mike

**Cuz** · 07-25-2013, 06:29 PM

I was stupid and done something similar to this with sust without knowing any better. I never seen any side affects other than acne. Your nipps are probably sensitive due to the estrogen conversion, maybe you should try armidex. Does gyno run in your family?

175 ripped to 188 and now your complaining of being fat? Sounds like you just gained belly fat then, might wanna have your estrogen levels checked with your doctor, are you telling him what is happening to you???
Sounds like a real problem, get ahold of your doctor.

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 06:48 PM

Sorry what is AI ? Also I went in for blood work this week and waiting on results so that's why I am thinking about taking more now.

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 06:50 PM

Will do thanks mike

**Cuz** · 07-25-2013, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

Sorry what is AI ? Also I went in for blood work this week and waiting on results so that's why I am thinking about taking more now.

aromatase inhibitor

you need to read up on the stickies

**pacman187** · 07-25-2013, 07:01 PM

How is Exemistane as an AI ?

Also can I take Clen or anavar with test ? Which one is better for getting ripped ?

I will talk to my dr about everything but again I want to reep the benifits while I'm on test. What's the dosage anyone would recommend for me ?

**crazy mike** · 07-25-2013, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

How is Exemistane as an AI ?

Also can I take Clen or anavar with test ? Which one is better for getting ripped ?

I will talk to my dr about everything but again I want to reep the benifits while I'm on test. What's the dosage anyone would recommend for me ?

Pacman, slow down. Stop and read up. Diet is the most important factor to getting ripped. Compounds help us but it is your diet. Compounds can hinder us with getting ripped or make it much harder, but it can be done with diet. Concentrate on your diet and get with the doc.
AND now get reading on the rest. Google Q's, seek the sticky's and the steroid profiles. But you need to dig in. Good luck . ...crazy mike

**DexterMorgan** · 07-25-2013, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

The reason I am on test is because my dr prescribed it for me. I lost sexual desire and was feeling weak all the time. I am 28 years old and this was a very odd case for them. My test levels are beyond low so they started me on test replacement therapy with 1 cc or 1 ml every 2 weeks. I know this is a low dose so that's why I am going to do 1 ml every week. I just don't know much about test and what else to take with it. I have no idea what your talking about with the abbreviations and would like help please. I used to be ripped and maintain a strict diet, I've been working out for 14 years and never felt this fat or bloated. What estrogen blocker do you recommend ? What is SERMS ?

And also while I am on this for medical reasons I also want to reep the benifits from it so what all do I need to do or take with it to get really ripped again. ? Thanks

Okay, so you're on TRT, not a cycle. You don't need SERMs then, it's for people who cycle steroids , to help them recover.
Talk to your Doc about Aromatize Inhibitor, you should be taking Exemestane or Arimidex to block estrogen, it's very important. I'm surprised he never prescribed it to you.

**TestAce** · 07-25-2013, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by pacman187

How is Exemistane as an AI ?

Also can I take Clen or anavar with test ? Which one is better for getting ripped ?

I will talk to my dr about everything but again I want to reep the benifits while I'm on test. What's the dosage anyone would recommend for me ?

Come on man, you need to stop asking questions and read the wealth of information that is out there. I learned everything I possibly could and was well informed before I ever started asking questions or using. There is tons of information on this forum and on the internet about everything you are asking. Do some research and inform yourself or you will be in a world of trouble.