Help with *Thoughts* on a *future* cycle

[Jax2Swol]

I am new to these forums, but I have spent about 7 months reading stickies and various other post. I have a couple of questions about a future cycle that will mainly consist of 2 compounds Test-E and Mast-E with maybe an oral of dbol . Here is some current stats of now I am currently in my PCT. I'm running chlomid 150/100/50/50

Age 24
Height 6' flat
Weight 190 lbs
Years of lifting: about 5 (past 2 hard and eating clean)
Bf 10-12%

The cycle (Compounds only)
Test-E 250 x2 wk 1-12
Mast-E 600mg a week but idk how I will divide that because
1.i don't have the bottle so I don't know the mg/ml
2.idk how masteron comes because I've never ran it
Dbol 30mg wk 1-4

I would also use hcg 250 ius 2x weekly until week 13 or 14 then start PCT



Goals would be to achieve a more vascular physique and possibly gain about 10lbs of muscle. I'm really ready to hit 200lbs. But this cycle won't be ran untill I'm fully recovered and stay recovered for a month or so. Expected time would be around November of 2013.

Any feedback would be much appreciated! Thanks!

[austinite]

Welcome,

What exactly is your cycle history?

[Jax2Swol]

Oh and I forgot to post my question hahaha! I was wondering about the D-Bol. Would it help me in achieving some more mass to reach my goals or should I just save the orals for later down the road?

[Jax2Swol]

Welcome,

What exactly is your cycle history?

I've only done 2 cycles in the past.

Sadly my first was at the age of 19. Go ahead and hammer me.
Test-E 250x2 wk1-10

No PCT, HCG , Or AI

2nd cycle at 21
Sustanon 300mg x2 wk1-12
I had a liquid form of arimidex so I can't tell you exact dosage but I ran supposedly 12.5 mg e3d
Also had chlomid pct and ran hcg the last 3 weeks of cycle at 250 ius x2 weekly

[Jax2Swol]

Bump?

[Jax2Swol]

Hate to bump again just wanting to hear some of y'all's guys experience with Dbol

[MajorPectorial]

Dbols OK to front load but its well known to increase ur water weight which in turn will help initially with strength but as for adding "lean mass" if ur diets clean it would help a bit. Personally I'd use the test+mast (always adding only one new compound at a time) n find out what its dosed at. Its typically 100mgml. But that's not to say it actually is. U wanna be knowing exactly what your doing or u can't plan properly. Sure u know that. N to me. The past is the past. Ppl mess up. Just hope it hasn't done damage to u long term mate.

[tdoe11]

Personally I love dbol . Unlike some I always tend to run it kind of low, and I take it all pre work out. I feel it gives me an edge in the gym, so my work outs are extra intense. With a good diet you will bloat minimally, although some bloat in my experience is un avoidable. Great little kicker waiting for everything else to kick in. I always take NAC with any oral. Personally I take 600mg morning and 600mg at night on orals. I just ended a cycle, did dbol the first 4 weeks, loved it. I went from 223 to 220 in a couple weeks, I feel a little better minus a couple lbs of extra water.

[Jax2Swol]

Dbols OK to front load but its well known to increase ur water weight which in turn will help initially with strength but as for adding "lean mass" if ur diets clean it would help a bit. Personally I'd use the test+mast (always adding only one new compound at a time) n find out what its dosed at. Its typically 100mgml. But that's not to say it actually is. U wanna be knowing exactly what your doing or u can't plan properly. Sure u know that. N to me. The past is the past. Ppl mess up. Just hope it hasn't done damage to u long term mate.

My diet will be clean and I hope to still grow and keep the body fat in the 10-12% range. And I was just makin sure the dbol doesn't just put on water weight and actually contributes to some muscle gain. And honestly I'm fine I still produce natty test fine. If it dropped a little it wasn't any noticeable difference.

Oh and masteron enathate
is dosed and 100mg/ml?

I wouldn't mind running a faster acting ester. I see the benefits in it but for me being so new to the world of AAS I think I should save that for later. Enathate suits me just fine.

[Jax2Swol]

Bump

[Jax2Swol]

Any body know what most Mast-E bottles come in mg/ml?

[Bonaparte]

200mg/ml.
But it doesn't matter to know ahead of time.

[Jax2Swol]

200mg/ml.
But it doesn't matter to know ahead of time.

Yes I know just making sure I will get legit from a source

[Jax2Swol]

Would Clen be a better addition instead of d-Bol? I'm really looking to get somewhat lean but still maintain to grow a good 10 lbs since I'm already fairly lean.