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07-29-2013, 09:22 AM #1
Max amount of test E for first cycle?
Recommended amount of test e first cycle. Pinning 750mgs wk now and wanting to go to a
1000. Is this overkill, was going to run eq too but have decided to just run test first cycle. Should
I stay at 750 and should I start my
Nolva and letrozole during cycle.
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07-29-2013, 09:26 AM #2
definitely overkill, 500mg/week is plenty for a first cycle.. maybe max 600mg/week...
start Arimidex at .25mg ED
nolva/clomid for PCT
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07-29-2013, 09:34 AM #3
I would've ran 500-600mg first but to late for that stay at 750
Might have to run arimidex .5eod depending on yourself but start at .25eod
Dot run letro
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07-29-2013, 09:36 AM #4
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07-29-2013, 10:14 AM #5
Wow! My first cycle will be 400 mgs test cyp. Will see how I respond to that dose first and then bump it for the second cycle to maybe 600...
How are you doing on the 750mgs?
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07-29-2013, 10:59 AM #6
So far on 750 I seem fine, seeing slow solid gains,mentally doing good. I wanted to go to. 1000 and everyone on here thinks I'm crazy so I'm gonna stay at 750mgs wk.
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07-29-2013, 02:20 PM #7
IMO, this is a horrible approach to a first cycle, and will probably lead to you F'ing yourself up.....maybe not this cycle, but surely at some point.
Do you even have diet in check? I hope you know how to train properly, and have established that for at least a few years.
You made no mention of E2 control or PCT. Hopefully, you know how to combat unavoidable side effects.
Good luck
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07-29-2013, 02:24 PM #8
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07-29-2013, 02:56 PM #9Originally Posted by AsEpSiS
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07-29-2013, 03:03 PM #10
Most likely .25eod on the arimidex
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07-29-2013, 03:32 PM #11
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I think most peeps problem with your cycle is that you started your test to high instead of gradually growing into your higher doses...ive been cycling for 4yrs now and have never had the need to go over 500mg a week...so whats next 1000mg? 1500mg?...more isn't always better bro...but you will find this out as you go...good luck...
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07-29-2013, 04:09 PM #13
So is my coach who has used oils successfully for 9 years currently a pro am BB has two world titles in arm wrestling and 6 national titles wrong? For starting me at 500mgs a wk
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07-29-2013, 04:11 PM #14
I realize everyone has an opinion I just don't see him steering me wrong
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07-29-2013, 04:55 PM #15Banned
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Well if you have a coach why ask here? Stick to the coach, especially if he's as successful as you say he is
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07-29-2013, 05:41 PM #16
265lbs 15% and natty??? Pic???
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07-29-2013, 06:02 PM #17Banned
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Oh here we go.
Pro tips for anyone who wants to post here: keep your stats to yourself, nobody is going to believe you any way.
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07-29-2013, 06:36 PM #18
No not at all, you could consider it a front load. I would recomend lowqer it to 500 so you can gauge how much sides you will get from it. 750 is a pretty high dosage that will most likely give you some decent sides. You want to be able to figure out you threash hold where you dont have to take other compounds to combat the side effects. Its stupid to take so much of something that you have to take another chemical, your just throwing your whole endo system off and makes recovering (all parts not just testosterone ). Less is more in the long run.
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07-30-2013, 08:59 AM #20
In short, YES.
Being a pro needs unsafe plan to be successfull, they risk their health more than they should to have maximum gain. They dont care about side they want gain.
We arent saying that yoh will gain less with 750mg(in fact you will gain more)
We are saying that the additional gain you will make wont worth the side and the difficulty to handle it.
We prone the safe use of aas. In a healthy and longterm way.
So going blind into high dose without knowing how to keep our E2 in check. Is not a safe approch.
Your coach doesnt care about your health. You want gain so he makes you have gain...
Do what you want be following a "pro BB" will end you up in trouble.
Great physic, but in trouble.
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07-31-2013, 09:21 AM #21Originally Posted by qscgugcsq
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07-31-2013, 10:59 AM #22
Well put roadking
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07-31-2013, 11:04 AM #23
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07-31-2013, 02:57 PM #24
I'd rather be in it for the long haul myself. Slow and steady usually better. Not always but usually. Why only 75? As long as I can take care of myself (mentally and physically) I want to hang around as long as I can!
This way I figure my life is only halfway over... or the cup is half full or something like that. lol.
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07-31-2013, 03:23 PM #25
I did 250mg per week my first cycle for 10 weeks and gained 15lbs
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07-31-2013, 06:15 PM #26
^^^ I've been mulling over trying 300mgs on my first cycle just to see how my body responds to aas.
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Tbh I did a test 300 blend every 4 days. But. I'm 6ft3+ ecto at around 90kg. I'm now third cycle n 110kg+ just make sure u grow into ur dose n keep an eye out for side. U don't need a lot on ur first cycle as ur bodies not used to it.
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Please.
20 years of your life aren't decided by 250 extra milligrams of test in your cycle.
If you don't start that high, you're going to get there soon anyway. These forums are great for guidelines, but its all bro science.
At best you will get a half read study or (more likely)just an abstract from people who have no business trying to understand what they actually say. Do yourself a favor and don't get caught up in the paranoia.
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Just grow into ur dose tho. Only go higher when u have to. Simple as that really
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08-01-2013, 07:25 PM #30
WTH! I'll just start at 1500mgs/ and see what happens... lol. Or why not 2000mgs? Start low and grow into it. It is that simple.
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Lol. Fit. 5gs tren . Lolz
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08-01-2013, 08:12 PM #33Originally Posted by onetwonine
500mg a week bro science, lol. I say use less first time around, I'm going to be 32 and on TRT. When my first go around when I'm ready will be 500-600mg a week
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08-01-2013, 09:41 PM #35
If you say so...
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You know what? Everyone will do why they think they will be comfortable worth. Afterreadig this, I wanted to up my 400 to 5 or 600 but I think my first time I will stick with 400. Hey, next time I will know. Would not recommend anything under 400 that's for sure. Waste of time. I think 4 or 500 is a good starting point
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08-02-2013, 10:17 AM #38
Just curious but how do you know 300mgs is a waste of time?
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08-02-2013, 12:23 PM #39Banned
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Well of course, parroting "less is more" stuff is clearly shows your incredible grasp of all steroid related knowledge
Seems to me you look like sh!t though old man. Why don't you put your vast knowledge to use, and you know, stop looking like sh!t? That's what I would do with incredible knowledge such as yours.
What do I know though. I'm not a "respected member" nor do I disguise my blatant self aggrandizing with nauseatingly forced humility. "I don't know much" , why not just drop that part and say what you really mean?
Why are you here, mid life crisis lead you here? Feeling twenty again?
You're a joke.
A half dead joke, albeit with vast knowledge. Glad you could bless me with some.
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