Your thoughts on home brew vs pharm grade?

**Cuz** · 07-31-2013, 07:29 PM

Have access in my area to some homemade stuff. Don't know if I should trust this or not. Supposedly manufactured by we'll just say "Dr." I was told. A complete line up, anything I need can be produced. I am fairly ignorant on homebrew and wanted to come here first.

What are the chances that this is legit and good quality gear? My bud's "friend" uses and swears by it. I have never met the person but may, should I judge it off of his physique or would that be a bad idea. Any thoughts?

**Fcarey32** · 07-31-2013, 07:33 PM

Hit or miss. Just far more room for error, generally less educated & experienced people make it, not as sterile, but if you can find a buddy that can brew quality, clean, and reliable stuff, that's a valuable asset.

**Cuz** · 07-31-2013, 07:35 PM

probably should just try some first before I unload the bank huh?

**Fcarey32** · 07-31-2013, 08:18 PM

Yeah man, it's cheap, west case scenario you get an infection. Doctor patches you up, you don't use it again. You could've also just found a gold mine. I'm using some home brew as we speak. Working fantastic for me.

**austinite** · 07-31-2013, 08:22 PM

Nothing will be as pure as pharm grade. No matter how good of a brewer you are (no offense local guys). No one really tests the purity of their powders.

**OnTheSauce** · 07-31-2013, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Nothing will be as pure as pharm grade. No matter how good of a brewer you are (no offense local guys). No one really tests the purity of their powders.

I need to send you some of mass spec lol

**austinite** · 07-31-2013, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by OnTheSauce

I need to send you some of mass spec lol

Please do. I'd love to be able to test gear. UGL's are mostly garbage in comparison. That's been my experience which is why I dumped them all.

**MajorPectorial** · 07-31-2013, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Nothing will be as pure as pharm grade. No matter how good of a brewer you are (no offense local guys). No one really tests the purity of their powders.

As long as this is "real" pharm grade. Some ppl talk about ugls like they're pharm grade just because of a fancy label. By personal experience. Ask him what sterilization procedures they follow. I.e. everything pre sterilized. Before use. Autoclaved after etc etc.

I'd never use a ugl again. I prefer to "know" everything's done correctly. Not half passed. I don't want to have to go to a doctor. N the chances are. They don't either. But yeh. If ur worried on dose pay for mass spec. Or bloods. Only way is to try I'm afraid.

**austinite** · 07-31-2013, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by MajorPectorial

As long as this is "real" pharm grade. Some ppl talk about ugls like they're pharm grade just because of a fancy label. By personal experience. Ask him what sterilization procedures they follow. I.e. everything pre sterilized. Before use. Autoclaved after etc etc.

I'd never use a ugl again. I prefer to "know" everything's done correctly. Not half passed. I don't want to have to go to a doctor. N the chances are. They don't either. But yeh. If ur worried on dose pay for mass spec. Or bloods. Only way is to try I'm afraid.

Of course it's real. Prescription pfizer.

**Flacco** · 07-31-2013, 10:06 PM

Personally, I've never had a bad experience with home brew/ugl. The price is good. However, there have been a couple of labs that scammed my friends buying off the internet. They'd send them an order or two, and dick them on the third order. UGL's are in it for the money. Unless you are brewing for personal use. The fact that a UGL would stiff you like that, makes me believe that that isn't the only shady business practice going on. I read more and more about how most/alot of the UGL anavar and primobolin are fake. That makes me question what I've been sold in the past. I may have bought Test that was being sold as "Deca ." I don't doubt there are "labs" out there that just make one giant batch of Test and sell it off as 5-10 different things. I have enough experience now to recognize certain effects different compounds have on me. If I have the money, I'll buy pharma. If I'm on a budget, I'll buy UGL. But I'll usually just stick with Test only from "No label" smaller home brews. I'd never buy something like masteron or primo from an UGL without at least a label and a good reputation from alot of other people.

**AlinSR** · 07-31-2013, 10:09 PM

Test is test is test.

**austinite** · 07-31-2013, 10:10 PM

lol.

**panntastic** · 07-31-2013, 10:53 PM

100% script genuine pharm will always be best.
Powder suppliers aren't the cleanest of places
It's certainly not made in labs
It's made in huge factories on an industrial scale along with fertilisers etc so pharm trumps Homebrew all day.

**< <Samson> >** · 08-01-2013, 08:19 AM

Would you consider Iranian pharma grade, true pharma grade?

Looks like it, but? ? ?

**panntastic** · 08-01-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Would you consider Iranian pharma grade, true pharma grade?

Looks like it, but? ? ?

Had some Iranian anadrol once wow seriously strong

**< <Samson> >** · 08-01-2013, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Had some Iranian anadrol once wow seriously strong

Good to hear. . . So far I think of the Iranian shit being the only true pharma grade we can get our hands on.

**Bio-Active** · 08-01-2013, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

100% script genuine pharm will always be best.
Powder suppliers aren't the cleanest of places
It's certainly not made in labs
It's made in huge factories on an industrial scale along with fertilisers etc so pharm trumps Homebrew all day.

I agree with that but in the same token I really like my home brew too

**panntastic** · 08-01-2013, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

I agree with that but in the same token I really like my home brew too

I only use Homebrew
Only ever used ugl once hurt so got into brewing many many years ago
And never once been let down.
Would like to try genuine pharma grade though for sure.

**< <Samson> >** · 08-01-2013, 11:35 AM

The problem I see with pharma grade is the variety is quite limited.

But, I'm pretty sure with some serious Bucks there is some interesting true pharmaceutical shit available.

For some reason I can't see Jay Cutler pumping UGL or home brewed gear.

**Bio-Active** · 08-01-2013, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

I only use Homebrew
Only ever used ugl once hurt so got into brewing many many years ago
And never once been let down.
Would like to try genuine pharma grade though for sure.

If its the right ugl it's fine and I can't tell the difference but I have had some bad ugls. Nothing sucks worse than a knot the size of a golf ball the day after pinning!!

**panntastic** · 08-01-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

If its the right ugl it's fine and I can't tell the difference but I have had some bad ugls. Nothing sucks worse than a knot the size of a golf ball the day after pinning!!

Was fake bd andropen 275
Was like hiding a small car in my ass cheek after that Homebrew became the norm and till this day I swear by it
Have made most things and even pushed limits on things for science sake just to see how high concentration I could get