First cycle ever, please help with some advice EXPERIENCED bros

[pleasehalp]

I have done my research, I am 21 about to be 22. I know first thing first I shouldn't till 25 or I could fuk up my endocrine system however I feel as it has fully developed.

I have been lifting since I was 14 years old naturally. That's about 7 years of bodybuilding and perfecting diet.

I am 200 pounds 5 11 and roughly 12% body fat. I am now at a stage to be lucky to get 5 pounds of muscle a year. I have perfected my diet into knowing exactly what it takes for my body to gain weight/lean bulk.


I have been suggested from this site/research and experienced but YOUNG friend I should do a Dbol cycle as my first along with 500mg of test. Its a 5 week cycle.

My questions are, does this sound like a reasonable cycle to do for a first?
Will Dbol and test lower my body fat % and gain muscle IF I STAY AT THE SAME bulking macros?

I have seen other threads where people do this cycle and go from 12% bodyfat to 15-16% and put on 20 pounds. I'm hoping they didn't know how to diet and wanting to drop bf% and put on some lean muscle. Is this reasonable as a first cycle? I;ve heard its easily attainable using tren + test however I am not ready for that.




Thanks for any help bros

[bdos]

Dbol can cause some bloat in some people all water weight a good beginner cycle is just 500mg of test p/w. Why not play it safe and wait till your 25 atleast the 15lb gain will last and want loose it after cycling.

[pleasehalp]

I want to compete. I feel like I am wasting time at this point when I could be putting on a lot of muscle using gear. So lets say I put on 15 pounds of muscle on my first cycle, I pct and diet right. How much muscle would I lose?

[freddie84]

I want to compete. I feel like I am wasting time at this point when I could be putting on a lot of muscle using gear. So lets say I put on 15 pounds of muscle on my first cycle, I pct and diet right. How much muscle would I lose?

It's All individual, and it's hard to say, because no ones body are the same. I'm currently in the process of educating myself before I start a cycle. Ask questions an educate yourself before starting ANY cycle. It's an awesome community and they're willing to help, but again your under the age of 25. Educate yourself and wait a couple of years

Take care

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[pleasehalp]

Thanks. thats what I am doing now and asking questions. I want to compete and I'm not afraid to take risks and as mentioned, I am a very well experienced lifter for my age

[bdos]

We cant stop you from cycling but we can give you the information

[teezer33]

Thanks. thats what I am doing now and asking questions. I want to compete and I'm not afraid to take risks and as mentioned, I am a very well experienced lifter for my age

It's all fine to be enthused about taking risks, but once the damage is done, you will spend the rest of your life trying to fix it. I suggest you get a little older, my friend. People like bdos are looking out for you.

[freddie84]

^^ what he said

Be safe

- Freddie

[pleasehalp]

It's all fine to be enthused about taking risks, but once the damage is done, you will spend the rest of your life trying to fix it. I suggest you get a little older, my friend. People like bdos are looking out for you.

Could you tell me the reasons why I should NOT take it? I am very curious as to why not? All the pros and greatest of all times had cycled from 16-17 years old and are perfectly fine now.

Why is it a necessity to wait till 25? By the time I'm 25 its almost to late to compete and become a pro unless starting cycles young.

[pleasehalp]

Could you tell me the reasons why I should NOT take it? I am very curious as to why not? All the pros and greatest of all times had cycled from 16-17 years old and are perfectly fine now.

Why is it a necessity to wait till 25? By the time I'm 25 its almost to late to compete and become a pro unless starting cycles young.

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[Sfla80]

Could you tell me the reasons why I should NOT take it? I am very curious as to why not? All the pros and greatest of all times had cycled from 16-17 years old and are perfectly fine now.

Why is it a necessity to wait till 25? By the time I'm 25 its almost to late to compete and become a pro unless starting cycles young.

Just curious about how you know they are not perfectly fine now?

[pleasehalp]

The young and Steroids


Ive read the stickies I know its "dont do this" "dont do that" Well why not? Thats like saying I shouldnt have sex because I could catch stds and aids and you should only do it when you are about to die since it doesn't matter at that point.

Am I missing something here as to why I should do it when I'm "old" and have a slim chance in competing due to all those years lost staying natural?

[pleasehalp]

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[< <Samson> >]

Well homeslice, it's your body. The part that sucks is that we all just get one.


I got over a decade on you and I still don't want to fvck myself up.


Sauce is very hard on your body at any age.


Up to you bro, but I know you don't want to be 30 on TRT with a limp dick trying to keep yourself in one piece

[thedeerhunter]

The first thing you brought up is that you know you shouldn't start till 25 so why are you. Just seems that that's the major thing you took away from your "research". Just wait man. In a couple year you will be there. Read the stickies and trust them. That's what everyone is here for. I may not know the most but I've been reading for about1 3/4 years now and still no gear