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    First cycle outline

    This is not 100% going to go ahead but its just a forecast in how i would do my first cycle. I still want to get my nutrition, bf and discipline in top form first. Ok stats are
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    177cm
    16 to 17% bf
    Training on and off for 8 years (injuries and working sometimes holding me back)

    CYCLE PLANS
    - Test E 250mg twice weekly for 12 weeks
    - Arimidex 0.25mg EOD from week one up until PCT (week14)
    - HCG 250iu twice weekly, ending 3 days before PCT

    PCT
    - Start 14 days after my last Test E injection
    - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    - Clomid 100or75/50/50/50
    -may use TESTCHARGE supplement during or after PCT as a test booster

    Ok so im still trying to get my hands on HCG, i know ppl who use the HCG drops and to be honest i do not want to go down that road and also i will most likely not cycle if i cant get HCG on hand.. Does this cycle look ok?

    Its prob about 6months away depending on my work commitments in the near future.. I work in a fly in fly out role and do 3 weeks on and 1week off, 11 hour shifts so im contemplating holding off until i can get a few weeks off for my PCT. i get the impression from mates that during PCT people get very low on energy and moral, true???

    Cheers for ur time

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    Stop the adex at wk 12 don't bother with the test booster load of sh*t yes wait till you get your hcg apart from that look good

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    Kapper, good job researching. Cycle looks good. Nolva just needs to be frontloaded the first week of PCT, not the second. Drop it in half for the remainder of PCT.

    hCG drops are a scam, just amino acids and herbs, not HCG and will do NOTHING to mimic LH.

    Best of luck to you.
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    Thanks for that austinite.. 2easy i will the nolva part out.. Im gona get all my PCT/AI's on hand first, when i get the HCG can it sit around for a few months before it is mixed??

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapper View Post
    Thanks for that austinite.. 2easy i will the nolva part out.. Im gona get all my PCT/AI's on hand first, when i get the HCG can it sit around for a few months before it is mixed??
    unmixed it will last a couple years if you don't freeze it, meaning room temperature. Freezing will last forever probably.
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    Oh thats good to know, thanks! This is my idea on how i would run my HCG ,

    I plan on buying 10,000iu of HCG and i will mix up 5000iu's with 10ml of bacteriostatic water, its my understanding that this will then become 500iu per ml or cc, meaning i will draw back 0.5mL equalling 250iu for each injection. i will have a 29g 1/2inch needle with 1cc/mL syringe for the administration of the HCG, it will be a subQ injection between fat and muscle around my stomach area. Its my understanding that the HCG once mixed and refridgerated can stay potent for up to 60 days???? My plan is to mix up the other 5000iu's on day 47 of my cycle which is exactly halfway thru the proposed use of HCG.

    Does it mix easy? As i know u cant shake it or disturb it to much, can it be injected straight after mixing? I watched videos on it subQ injections and it seems the injection of the liquid doesnt need to be slow like the test E???

    Sorry to ramble on with all this but the HCG part seems to be very important and when i do it i want to get it right.

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    yeah, I've used hCG for over 3 months after it's mixed without issues. So 60 days should be just fine. It mixes easy, just swirl the vial gently and put it in the fridge right away.
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    Nice to see someones doing and has done some fantastic research and is deciding correctly to ensure diet and ancils are all in order b4 starting. Take my hat of to you sir. Good luck when you go ahead nothing I can add to this thread so far.

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