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    Thinking of doing of 1st Cycle....Advice?

    Hi guys, thinking of giving it a go.

    Can get hold of Test Prop.

    27 yrs, 186cm, 90kg & 13% BF.

    Looking to put some size on.

    Want to know;
    1. How long to do the cycle for?
    2. What dosage?
    3. Just Test?
    4. What PCT?

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    Welcome,

    What has your research yielded? We generally don't give full cycle layouts. We prefer that you research and then propose a full and complete cycle so that we can critique it.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome,

    What has your research yielded? We generally don't give full cycle layouts. We prefer that you research and then propose a full and complete cycle so that we can critique it.

    Thanks.
    My research found the following;

    6-10 Weeks.
    50mg ED or 100mg EOD.
    Test Only for first cycle.
    Clom & Nova for PCT.

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    Ok, so how long have you been training? And what is 50mg ED ? 50mg of what? Are you aware of elevated estrogen on cycle? How much nolva and clomid and when do you plan on administering them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Ok, so how long have you been training? And what is 50mg ED ? 50mg of what? Are you aware of elevated estrogen on cycle? How much nolva and clomid and when do you plan on administering them?
    50mg Each Day of Test Prop.
    I am aware. Not sure about PCT. This is why I'm asking questions.

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    Ok, before we get to PCT, what is your plan for estrogen management?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Ok, before we get to PCT, what is your plan for estrogen management?
    Was thinking Aromasin ?

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    You haven't done any research on doses it seems. I really hate to spoon-feed because you'll never really get a good grasp on this, but this thread would be never ending otherwise...

    Test prop for 8 weeks 100 eod
    Aromasin 25mg daily for 8 weeks.
    hCG 250iu twice weekly for 8 weeks. (you need this to recover better/faster, maintain function in your testes and prevent atrophy.)
    PCT starts 3 days after last test injection...

    Clomid 75/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that given week, for a total of 4 weeks PCT.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    You haven't done any research on doses it seems. I really hate to spoon-feed because you'll never really get a good grasp on this, but this thread would be never ending otherwise...

    Test prop for 8 weeks 100 eod
    Aromasin 25mg daily for 8 weeks.
    hCG 250iu twice weekly for 8 weeks. (you need this to recover better/faster, maintain function in your testes and prevent atrophy.)
    PCT starts 3 days after last test injection...

    Clomid 75/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that given week, for a total of 4 weeks PCT.

    Good luck.
    Thanks very much.

    You can delete thread if you like.

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    No problem. Thread stays for educational purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    You haven't done any research on doses it seems. I really hate to spoon-feed because you'll never really get a good grasp on this, but this thread would be never ending otherwise...

    Test prop for 8 weeks 100 eod
    Aromasin 25mg daily for 8 weeks.
    hCG 250iu twice weekly for 8 weeks. (you need this to recover better/faster, maintain function in your testes and prevent atrophy.)
    PCT starts 3 days after last test injection...

    Clomid 75/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that given week, for a total of 4 weeks PCT.

    Good luck.
    In one of the stickies they say take the PCT 2 weeks after your last test injection......

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny886 View Post
    In one of the stickies they say take the PCT 2 weeks after your last test injection......
    Not for short esters.
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