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So here is my question guys: All of you are saying that test are the base of a cycle, and without it it's not worth to run a cycle. However, i know a few pros who run stuff like stanozolol , masteron, boldenone without test, saying it's a lot easier to make a pct, since it can only be done with clomid. (ofc the gains are not so big as with test and they usually do this precontest) so what's with this topic now?
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I do know why would pros do that.
Steroids shut down your test, even var. You need to inject at least a small dose of test to be in a normal range or higher. You will feel tired all day long, and your D won't work right when your don't have test in your system. So you might even lose muscle on cycle without test from feeling like crap.
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You absolutely do not know any pros on orals only. Just use the search function, there are 1000's upon 1000's of threads discussing this.Originally Posted by TheNex
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What? I never said these were orals O.o
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I doubt you personally know any pros. Maybe just guys who compete or something. Pros have trainers. And pros wouldn't/don't do stuff like that. I do know a couple.
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Orals... No test... etc.. There are no pros that do not run test. None.
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What was that stupid steroid documentary where the guy was always doing winny only and wondering why he was all sad and depressed?
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Pro's who run a PCT? How many of those are there I wonder?
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I know one. But he is a heavyweight, not super heavy. Lol. He HOLDS a LEAN 245 off cycle with just hgh and slin. Very strict diet obviously
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