lean mass cycle - good option?

[veintiunmil9]

hello everyone! the intention of this cycle is a very noticeable gain muscle mass (8 kg think it would be good), but with the intention that the mass gained is very solid, quality defined and practically no fluid retention. this would be the preparation:
Week 1-12: 500mg sustanon 250 mg divided into monday thursday
Week 1-7: 250 mg DecaDurabolin
Week 8-12: 300 mg boldenone
Week 1-8: 30 mg ed, oral winstrol
Week 1-8: 200mg Trenbolone Acetate, 100mg Monday, 100mg Thursday
12.5 arimidex eod and if insufficient 25 eod
Optional: kick start with testosterone propionate

my problem is that my height is quite small (165 cm) and my goal is more aesthetic, my body fat is 11-12%, weight 75kg, age 22 and I have thought this cycle prioritize biceps triceps and chest, as I have a lot of back and great shoulders and chest contour a little flat but very venous and cut.

thanks

[Bio-Active]

Cycle experience?

[Gaspaco]

Man, thats a lot of compounds!!!

[veintiunmil9]

2 cycles , the first lean mass with 300 bolde ew , 1-5 sustanon 250 ew , 6-10 propionate 300 ew , 1-4 dbol 30mg ed , and other cutting cycle , 1-5 trembo acetate 76 eod , primo 300 mg ew (500 mg the 2 start weeks) , 1-8 propio test 300 mg eod , winny 50 mg eod 1-6 week . my cycle experience
lot of compounds? then what its your idea for good gain but very lean mass , no fluid and ofc if its possible low cut action cycle ? the trembo its my option for this and the gain its deca but not its good agent for very lean and defined muscle rlly? thanks for replys

[Sfla80]

2 cycles , the first lean mass with 300 bolde ew , 1-5 sustanon 250 ew , 6-10 propionate 300 ew , 1-4 dbol 30mg ed , and other cutting cycle , 1-5 trembo acetate 76 eod , primo 300 mg ew (500 mg the 2 start weeks) , 1-8 propio test 300 mg eod , winny 50 mg eod 1-6 week . my cycle experience
lot of compounds? then what its your idea for good gain but very lean mass , no fluid and ofc if its possible low cut action cycle ? the trembo its my option for this and the gain its deca but not its good agent for very lean and defined muscle rlly? thanks for replys

Wow looks like u tried 80 % of all compounds in your first 2 cycles...thats crazy

[veintiunmil9]

yes ... im a bit crazy , but ideas for this 3rd cycle?

[itsjayman02]

Crazy in a dangerous way !!

First off 22 you are too young

Next it's not about using every compound on the market

Training smart clean diet and sleep will yield the results you desire

Do some research and read Marcus sticky on the young and steroids

My advice is STOP!! start from scratch work for your gains keep clean for a couple of years then start with 1 compound at a time

More is not always better my friend!!

[veintiunmil9]

and I repeat do not want to seem rude because it goes with good intentions. took five years training very well, leaving me hard workouts skin, very complete diet, supplements a fortune on basic and not so basic ... and there was no way to improve if the case a minimum gain muscle and gain fat huge forever, even taking care of a lot of carbohydrates ... should perhaps be more careful with EAAS but I think my intention is to do 1 gain cycle and one more cutting cycle next summer to be at a point that I may have to continue without them for a long period of time ... . Knowing this, and not think about my age, you could help with this preparation? perhaps safer, with only 2 safe compounds for the outcome I seek? thanks

[TinyTank99]

1st cycle should try just test only to see if your prone to gyno, then add in from there.

seems like you need to cut back on the gear and rethink your diet and training if your not getting the results you want.

have a before and after picture?

[veintiunmil9]

i have an after picture (actually body apparence) ....

[ChiveOn]

12.5 adex? Surely you mean aromasin
Deca and tren? Why two 19nor steroids at once? Bad idea
7 wks of Deca? Why? It's a long ester and should be run almost double that length
5wks of EQ? Are you high? Because that should be run something like 16wks for solid results and double that dose
Where is your prolactin control? Especially with 2 19nors
What will your pct look like. And with so many altering ester lengths when do you plan on starting it?

You certainly have a great physique I won't fault you there. But wtf are you thinking with this hodgepodge load of shit? I mean... Someone has to say it.

[Gaspaco]

Looking very good!

Do you want to compete?

[veintiunmil9]

in first reply for chiveOn : thought you were my Jiminy Cricket hahahaha , is indeed you're right, in fact this is the preparation that I got that I did not understood very well, because despite being a rookie I'm sure I memorized the EAAS profiles, but of course do not know the super-secret combinations using people and this is what they gave me ... I had thought of some lean mass gains focused especially obvious areas already mentions above, personally thought had 1-5 sustanon 250 mg ew, 6-10 propionate 100mg eod and mass as quality anabolic perhaps boldenone 600 /600/450/450/450/450/300/300/300/300 mg oral winstrol a dose of 30/40 mg ed 8 weeks or oxandrolone same quantities last five weeks along with propionte .. . trenbolone unused even so should be pretty good cycle in generating 6-7 kg lean muscle and giving me the opportunity to maintain or even reduce some fat before the big summer drying it come true?

and to gaspaco: actually yes, I would love to compete in categories such as mens classic mens physique or because I work in nightclubs image that looks even lie with my height haha

[ChiveOn]

It's fairly obvious you have no idea what's going on. Most vets wouldn't run the amount of compounds you are running together. Not to mention that they are at stupid dosages, lengths, and combinations.
I won't even get into the age issue... But why not pick one or two compounds and run them correctly for a change?

And you still didn't answer a single question

[veintiunmil9]

I responded to everything I've questioned, using one single compound, I just gain effect, I can not let him shoot me gain the kilos phase but also not earning enough so seek combinations that allow me to gain a mass rdefinida very solid and dry, or that I do not clog the slightest, you think of a combination or a compound so do this alone?

[tgunn]

Damn son, your turning a cycle into rocket science..

Good luck.

[Chelsea Grin]

way too many compounds...why not just run test p and tren?

[bigsiv]

I responded to everything I've questioned, using one single compound, I just gain effect, I can not let him shoot me gain the kilos phase but also not earning enough so seek combinations that allow me to gain a mass rdefinida very solid and dry, or that I do not clog the slightest, you think of a combination or a compound so do this alone?

Are you on coke or whizz buddy because your typing sounds like your thinking very quickly. You need to calm down and relax and think about what people are saying.

You have a decent physique but not great where is the muscle mass in your arms etc?
I suspect judging by the unevenness or your structure your training is not geared (pardon the pun) towards gaining serious mass therefore no amount of AAS will help. You need to stick to one maybe two compounds and use them correctly. Learn how to train and eat towards your goal buddy.

Don't take everything in sight because you will end up hurt good luck buddy

[veintiunmil9]

okay, I'll read more about the training, although they really do not know what information search, specifically for the purpose I want, as I have always based my routines, basic movements dough 3-4 exercises per group with 1 detail and alternating in the movement and in the week with 1 advanced technique, 4x12 ... 5x8-10, and cut 4x10/10/15/18 and the like, and aerobics ....

[spiralkut]

**** i just got a headache from trying to understand what your saying. Everything about that cycle is ****ed and what makes it even baffling is you keep saying you dont want water weight, yet you want to run Deca which will put the most water weight on out of everything.

[veintiunmil9]

exactly! then we agree on what you said the companion, which is to eliminate the use deca and give me some dough made ​​of pure quality, but in quantity ... or that objective relegate bolde amounts (600mg) for 10 weeks ew or primobolan use much as necessary .... I feel good that I say you do not understand me, perhaps I know not explain properly but instead of telling me that what I say is wrong you give me an idea ... maybe advance ...

[spiralkut]

10 weeks is still not long enough for Boldenone

[veintiunmil9]

how many thinks U? 12 - 14 ?

[bdos]

You want asthetics? Diet, lower your cals and hit the treadmill you dont need any of this stuff

[veintiunmil9]

I doubt that this response is consistent, we all know that it is necessary, but I seek the aesthetic aspect of a category naturally muscular, I think is not achieved, and if you are able to affirm that yes you get, because you use your steroids ?
To understand the point I want to get I give a name, Lazar Angelov, now understand my goal?