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    Thanks man MUCH appreciated.

    So one more question I believe will sum it up before starting my first cycle...

    I developed Gyno as an adolescent and don't want to deal with it EVER again, I did have surgery in my early 20's to get rid of it. Your plan suggests Arimidex - 0.25mg EOD with me being potentially more prone to gyno should I up my dosage to potentially 0.25mg ED??

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    ^ Blood work will tell you. 0.25 is a good start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ Blood work will tell you. 0.25 is a good start.
    EOD or ED being the good start?

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    Exactly as outlined in the original article, Trev.
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    Hey thanks a lot Austi for the wealth of info presented here:
    I am thinking to start w/ a Test E Dbol cycle and have some questions for you:
    1. I am thinking to keep it as 10 week instead of 12 week cycle (I have read that the gains in the last two viz-a-viz. the risks aren't that great, so why not keep it short?) Also, this is not exactly my first cycle and I did the mistake of running a crappy only test e cycle before at 250,250,500,500,500,250 for six weeks. I gained a lot of water and some muscle (noticeable gains) as my calorie uptake was very high
    2. Dbol at 30 mg per day for the first 3 weeks should be fine enough for the starting strength and gains? (I know Dbol bloats a lot and I don't want a bad moon face during the cycle)
    3. Arimidex - I am not prone to gyno (didn't get any signs in the previous cycle) so should I think of running Arimidex only when I see bloating or to keep bloating under control? I am not sure whether Adex will bring sides of its own
    4. HCG - I know it should be run during cycle but if I use the blasting method at the end of the cycle which is at week 11 and week 12 (14 days to PCT), can i run it 2000 i.u per week for two weeks?
    5. Nolva is necessarily required w/ clomid?
    6. Clomid - I took clomid at 50 mg for two weeks before and it gave me massive cramps. Is that a side effect of clomid?


    Hence, my 10 week cycle would look like this:

    Week 1 to 10 Test E 500 mg per week
    Week 1 to 3 Dbol 30 mg per day
    Week 1 to 12 Arimidex 0.25 mg eod (from day 2 up until PCT starts)
    Or,
    Week 1 to 12 Aromasin 25 mg daily
    Week 11 to 12 HCG 2000 i.u premix per week
    Week 13 to 16 Clomid 75 mg every day for the first week and 50 mg every day for the last 3 weeks
    Week 13 to 16 Nolva 40 mg every day for the first week and 20 mg every day for the last 3 weeks
    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
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    ^ Welcome, Rocky Rambo.

    I'll be honest. I stopped reading after you said "I am thinking to start w/ a Test E Dbol cycle".

    Please read my article again. I do not support multiple compounds for a first cycle. And a quick glance at your hCG protocol tells me you did not read what I wrote carefully. Give my article the time it deserves and I will do the same for you.

    Best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ Welcome, Rocky Rambo.

    I'll be honest. I stopped reading after you said "I am thinking to start w/ a Test E Dbol cycle".

    Please read my article again. I do not support multiple compounds for a first cycle. And a quick glance at your hCG protocol tells me you did not read what I wrote carefully. Give my article the time it deserves and I will do the same for you.

    Best of luck to you.
    Hey Austi,

    I did read your post very carefully. The word 'start' didn't mean that I am starting it as my first cycle ever. I did a very crappy cycle of Test E before at 250,250,500,500,500,250 and gained a lot of water but definitely some muscle as my calorie was way above the maintenance. It was until December last year.
    Currently, I am at 5'10'' at 75 kgs w/ 14% body fat. I know that my stats aren't impressive as per your recommendations but I have good amount of training under my belt. I can bench press at 80 kgs (more than my body weight) for 3-4 good reps. I know that's pretty average, however, I am planning to cut down to below 10% and then lean bulk for sometime and then start my cycle. That's the reason I mentioned it to you here.

    For HCG, yes, I read your post and many other posts and it is definitely recommended to take it on cycle but please go through the reasons in my post as well. Some do say that, HCG many not be necessarily required for this cycle, however, if I plan to take it, I might not be able to source it on cycle. Hence, I am planning to blast it at 2000 i.u. per week for two weeks. I just wanted to know your advice on those points. Please be rest assured that I have read your posts and recommendations before writing something here.

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    If you did a crappy first cycle then just follow the protocol I outlined and start fresh. Doing a crappy cycle does not justify adding another compound in my opinion. I don't need to go through reasons with respect to hCG . I have my own reasons, posted here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

    I don't think I am the right person to help you, Rocky. This thread is dedicated for 1st cycles only and folks who wish to follow the protocol outlined. If you want to vary from the protocol, just post a new thread and get opinions from 100's of other knowledgeable members. You and I will just end up going back and forth to no end.

    Every question you could possibly fathom asking has already been answered by me. Here are my educational articles:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

    Best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    If you did a crappy first cycle then just follow the protocol I outlined and start fresh. Doing a crappy cycle does not justify adding another compound in my opinion. I don't need to go through reasons with respect to hCG . I have my own reasons, posted here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html I don't think I am the right person to help you, Rocky. This thread is dedicated for 1st cycles only and folks who wish to follow the protocol outlined. If you want to vary from the protocol, just post a new thread and get opinions from 100's of other knowledgeable members. You and I will just end up going back and forth to no end. Every question you could possibly fathom asking has already been answered by me. Here are my educational articles: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html Best of luck to you.
    All your post are so serious these days, just saying haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    If you did a crappy first cycle then just follow the protocol I outlined and start fresh. Doing a crappy cycle does not justify adding another compound in my opinion. I don't need to go through reasons with respect to hCG . I have my own

    reasons, posted here: Best of luck to you.
    Thanks buddy. I will go through your articles as well and will get back on the appropriate threads if I have any questions

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    so no roids for anyone over 16%bf???bs..all these powerlifters dont use??cmon

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabstrong View Post
    so no roids for anyone over 16%bf???bs..all these powerlifters dont use??cmon
    Maybe you should read the thread again before blabbering. This thread has nothing to do with powerlifters. But regardless of your sport, cycling beyond 16 % is silly at best. The risks are much greater than those with lessor body fat. It's pretty simple, anyone should understand it.
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    I did blood work and my hemoglobin is a little bit high. How much time with test-e to hemoglobin thickens in cycle?

    because of this should I do bloodwork even more than recomended in your post?
    donating blood would control blood pressure problems and decrease hemoglobin? Isnt donating blood to often negative for the cycle?

    Im sorry if it does not make any sense.. Im not sure if I understand topic well

    many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRODIJ View Post
    I did blood work and my hemoglobin is a little bit high. How much time with test-e to hemoglobin thickens in cycle?

    because of this should I do bloodwork even more than recomended in your post?
    donating blood would control blood pressure problems and decrease hemoglobin? Isnt donating blood to often negative for the cycle?

    Im sorry if it does not make any sense.. Im not sure if I understand topic well

    many thanks
    Everyone is different. Here's a good read with respect to Blood Counts: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...od-counts.html
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    Howdy Austinite, greatly apreciate all the infomation!

    Quick question if you dont mind.

    Planning first cycle, Im 27 years old. Read entire original thread and again am thankful for the info. I am gonna play it safe, exactly as you outlined. (Even a small cut down to 16% bf)

    Planning 500mg of Test weekly. . . (w/anti estrogen and hcg . PCT after.)

    I have a product available to me containing 200mg Test E & 200mg Test C per ml.

    Through research ive found the two (C & E) have been called very similar.


    IS THIS TYPE OF MIXTURE OK FOR FIRST CYCLE?

    THANKS AGAIN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumping_iron86 View Post
    Howdy Austinite, greatly apreciate all the infomation!

    Quick question if you dont mind.

    Planning first cycle, Im 27 years old. Read entire original thread and again am thankful for the info. I am gonna play it safe, exactly as you outlined. (Even a small cut down to 16% bf)

    Planning 500mg of Test weekly. . . (w/anti estrogen and hcg . PCT after.)

    I have a product available to me containing 200mg Test E & 200mg Test C per ml.

    Through research ive found the two (C & E) have been called very similar.


    IS THIS TYPE OF MIXTURE OK FOR FIRST CYCLE?

    THANKS AGAIN!
    Yes, that would be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Yes, that would be fine.

    AWESOME, thanks again for this thread partner!

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    wow, thank you for posting this. Wish I would have read this a long time ago.

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    Austinite great post! very informal, you rock!

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    I was wondering, so in a 10ml vial of test-e that is 250mg/ml which contains 2500mg total would be good for (5 weeks??) if it were used as you say the 500mg/week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayle
    I was wondering, so in a 10ml vial of test-e that is 250mg/ml which contains 2500mg total would be good for (5 weeks??) if it were used as you say the 500mg/week?
    That's correct. 500mg/w divided by 2500mg in vial = 5 weeks. You'll obviously need at least 3 vials for a 12 week cycle.

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    To everyone who frequents the board good evening.

    I don't want to offend ANYONE with this statement, but unless you're OVER 40 or austinite, I would prefer that you not respond. I KNOW there are knowledgeable folks under 40 regarding cycle use but I want someone who I can relate to to respond. I single out austinite because he seems to be moderator of this particular thread.

    Ok now with that out the way, let me try to condense my questions and my pedigree info.

    44yrs old, NEVER cycled, 6'4, 350lbs (down from 416, weight got out of hand due a streak of bad luck, loooong story) just got blood work back, cholesterol is slightly elevated, no blood pressure issues, teststosterone levels at 141 and should be between 348-1141 according to my Doctor, diet has been about 80% clean, I won't lie to the board and say I 100% stay true to my diet because I haven't but I'm attempting to get there.

    I've been researching steroid use for the past 2 1/2 years and I've come to this conclusion. I will NEVER know everything about this field because there is TONS of info out there. There are some really informative websites out there for newbies and veterans to learn from. I would like to list some of them but on most boards this is frowned upon and I don't want to get blacklisted or get a naughty gram. My issue/question is this, I've read your My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle a few times, and have read AT LEAST 50 others like it. (GREAT article by the way my friend!) I think I have over saturated my brain with info. My goal is to continue to lose weight, add some muscle definition, and increase my strength. I have to deal with criminals on a daily basis and being strong is vital. I plan on running Test E 500mg, and clomid/nolvadex PCT and leaving it at that, at least for my first cycle. I understand my BF% is not low, (34%) but I have read several blogs and talked to at least 35 people who stated a cycle would benefit me. If you could give me your opinion austinite it would be appreciated. Also if any OVER 40 folks only would chime in, especially OVER 40 first time cyclers, I would love to hear from you. My diet is the typical bodybuilder meal, chicken breast, sweet potato, brocholi about 80% of the time with talipa, and turkey subbed out now and then for a change. ( I get a HUGE discount on chicken breast because of my job! )

    Please don't be afraid to be direct with me, I'm a big boy. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.

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    King, welcome to the board.

    Firstly, congratulations on your weight loss. Your testosterone levels are indicative of late-onset hypogonadism. Since you've never cycled (and I assume you have no history of testicular or head trauma), you're a candidate for low testosterone treatment.

    With that in mind, taking your testosterone levels back to the proper range will yield great results for you; both physically and mentally. Under the supervision of a qualified physician/endocronologist/urologist, you will most certainly improve your quality of life and aid you with your fat-loss-journey.

    Being a TRT patient would eliminate the need for PCT once you're ready to cycle. You'd simply return to your TRT protocol.

    My advice would be to find a good doctor to help guide you through treatment. Once you have your treatment on track with good results, you can start considering a cycle. This time span will help you understand your blood work more, bring your T levels back to normal range, help you retain muscle while you lose fat and a host of other benefits that will have you ready to cycle in no time.

    I came from 36% body fat. So I understand the struggle and am impressed with your progress thus far. I also understand how overwhelming the internet and local "know it all's" can be. Take a deep breath, make an appointment with a longevity clinic and get your hormones back to life and your body ready for a cycle.

    Best of luck to you, and if I haven't answered your concerns in a satisfactory matter, please feel free to expand on your concerns so that I or others can better assist you.

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    Welcome King06.

    Austin laid it out nicely with his initial response. A cycle is not what you need. TRT would be the proper choice. You will be amazed as what restoring youthful levels of testosterone can do for you, both mentally and physically. Your progress will be quicker which breeds more motivation. Key is to partner up with a good doctor. The doc's title does not matter, they just need to understand hormones and treat you by your symptoms, not by a number on your blood work.

    Before making a blind appointment with a doctor, call the office and ask to speak to one of the nurses. Be polite and ask them if the doctor will prescribe self-injections, HCG as well as an aromatase inhibitor. Right now I can about guarantee you will need an AI. In the future you may not. Reason for the call is to not waste your time and theirs with a doctor who will not treat you with a modern protocol as viewed by the top doc's in the industry. It's pretty much exactly how I found my current doctor.

    I'd also suggest you visit the TRT Forum and familiarize yourself with all the sticky threads.

    Welcome to the forum King. Hopefully your journey is a positive one and we are more than happy to help you along the way if possible.

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    Good evening to everyone who frequents the board.

    Thank you VERY MUCH to Austinite and Kelkel for their prompt informative responses. Took you guys advice. I went to my secondary doctor and requested a prescription for injectable test e or requested to start TRT but he wanted to have my blood drawn and tested AGAIN after I had already provided my results from LAST WEEK!! Sheesh, is it just Missouri where it seems as if doctors don't want to start you on TRT? I'm going to have to do like kelkel mentioned, get out my yellow pages, and go down the list of doctors and ask them if the doctor will prescribe self-injections, HCG as well as an aromatase inhibitor. I may be a little impatient at this point but as I mentioned earlier, I've been researching for 2 1/2 years and ( I forgot to include this in my previous post) using a doctor prescribe test cream for a year! My secondary doctor also mentioned that another reason he wanted to test my blood again is because TRT can cause heart and liver damage and he only does the treatment as a last resort? I got the vibe he doesn't want to do it so I will/may have to look for another doctor. I don't understand what the reluctance is for him to start my treatment. My test is low, so what's the problem? Thanks again for your advice and I will post my SECOND TEST RESULTS in as many weeks soon.

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    Hello Austinite. Are you taking on clients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by siamakdieded View Post
    Hello Austinite. Are you taking on clients?
    Not currently. Sorry.
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    Austin. Had blood work started today

    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH

    No place has a test for free testosterone. (In communist China there is no free testosterone). Is there another name this is under? The hormone profile has Total Test, E2, LH, FSH only. I showed them the wiki in Chinese on bio-available and free testosterone and they looked blank. Any suggestion?

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    Did you ask him how many more times likely you are to have MI, Stroke, or blood clots with low test? 4-5x is the answer and a quick google can provide him with the scientific studies.

    As a side point my doc had no issue giving me as much androil 40 pills I wanted without a blink of an eye. The moment a syringe became involved it was like a different topic all together. Made me write a paper that I would not inject illegal drugs with it and sign it. It is a hospital insurance issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by King06 View Post
    Good evening to everyone who frequents the board.

    Thank you VERY MUCH to Austinite and Kelkel for their prompt informative responses. Took you guys advice. I went to my secondary doctor and requested a prescription for injectable test e or requested to start TRT but he wanted to have my blood drawn and tested AGAIN after I had already provided my results from LAST WEEK!! Sheesh, is it just Missouri where it seems as if doctors don't want to start you on TRT? I'm going to have to do like kelkel mentioned, get out my yellow pages, and go down the list of doctors and ask them if the doctor will prescribe self-injections, HCG as well as an aromatase inhibitor. I may be a little impatient at this point but as I mentioned earlier, I've been researching for 2 1/2 years and ( I forgot to include this in my previous post) using a doctor prescribe test cream for a year! My secondary doctor also mentioned that another reason he wanted to test my blood again is because TRT can cause heart and liver damage and he only does the treatment as a last resort? I got the vibe he doesn't want to do it so I will/may have to look for another doctor. I don't understand what the reluctance is for him to start my treatment. My test is low, so what's the problem? Thanks again for your advice and I will post my SECOND TEST RESULTS in as many weeks soon.

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    Thanks for the info it's must appreciated I've already bought deca 250 and Dinabol fort cycle should I stick with 0.25 of armidex to I was thinking of running hgc and clomid right the way through just to be on the safe side will this do me any harm over doing the cleansing side I just want to be safe thanks kp ))))

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Not currently. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingprawn View Post
    Thanks for the info it's must appreciated I've already bought deca 250 and Dinabol fort cycle should I stick with 0.25 of armidex to I was thinking of running hgc and clomid right the way through just to be on the safe side will this do me any harm over doing the cleansing side I just want to be safe thanks kp ))))
    Hey there. No deca for 1st cycles. If you want to vary from this protocol, please start a new thread.

    Welcome aboard.
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    This appears to be a phenomenal source, perhaps this could become an option that is a part of the sign up process, ensuring someone reads all of this before they act upon their emotions.

    It also prompted me to and motivated me to continue to study rather than go ahead and try something.

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    Austinite, great post. Learned a lot just by reading.

    Ok so I wanna do my first ever cycle, but as on right now I don't think I'm quite ready. I am 38 years old 5'11" and 225 lbs. I am about 25% bf so I would need to lose at least 10% before I would consider starting my cycle. My calculations would mean that I'd have to cut down to approx. 200 to be in the 15% range.
    My TDEE is about 2500, so on my cycle I'd like to run at about a 300 cal surplus. I have been training since I was about 16 years old, but I haven't been in the gym for about a year. I just got back in about a month ago, and I can feel the muscle memory kicking in. I believe I do have a solid foundation to work on.
    My cycle:
    I would like to run Test 500mg/week 250mg mon and again on Thursday for 12 weeks
    HCG from day 1
    Arimidex 0.25mg/day from day 1
    Also would run nac for liver protection.
    I'm hoping this cycle works well. I do have realistic expectations and I have decent genetics so I could see some decent results.
    Please let me know if all is good or are there any changes to
    Consider.
    Couple of questions
    1. My general practitioner is where I'll go for blood work. Known the guy for years. Will he know what's up when I start asking him what to check for on blood work?
    2. Can a regular doctor prescribe the test to me?
    3. Would he prescribe the test even if my blood work comes back saying I have normal test? FYI he did prescribe Test to another friend of mine and he just went to pharmacy and got it. Took it back to dr and he administered the shot. Every 10 days.
    4. Will DR let you do self injections at home? Or are they not willing to do that?

    Thanks in advance.
    Hopefully questions aren't too off base.

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    BTW, PCT would be ran 18 days after cycle was over. Because if like to run cypionate .
    Pct would consist of the exact protocol you outlined in original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkman13 View Post
    Austinite, great post. Learned a lot just by reading.

    Ok so I wanna do my first ever cycle, but as on right now I don't think I'm quite ready. I am 38 years old 5'11" and 225 lbs. I am about 25% bf so I would need to lose at least 10% before I would consider starting my cycle. My calculations would mean that I'd have to cut down to approx. 200 to be in the 15% range.
    My TDEE is about 2500, so on my cycle I'd like to run at about a 300 cal surplus. I have been training since I was about 16 years old, but I haven't been in the gym for about a year. I just got back in about a month ago, and I can feel the muscle memory kicking in. I believe I do have a solid foundation to work on.
    My cycle:
    I would like to run Test 500mg/week 250mg mon and again on Thursday for 12 weeks
    HCG from day 1
    Arimidex 0.25mg/day from day 1
    Also would run nac for liver protection.
    I'm hoping this cycle works well. I do have realistic expectations and I have decent genetics so I could see some decent results.
    Please let me know if all is good or are there any changes to
    Consider.
    Couple of questions
    1. My general practitioner is where I'll go for blood work. Known the guy for years. Will he know what's up when I start asking him what to check for on blood work?
    2. Can a regular doctor prescribe the test to me?
    3. Would he prescribe the test even if my blood work comes back saying I have normal test? FYI he did prescribe Test to another friend of mine and he just went to pharmacy and got it. Took it back to dr and he administered the shot. Every 10 days.
    4. Will DR let you do self injections at home? Or are they not willing to do that?

    Thanks in advance.
    Hopefully questions aren't too off base.
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes, but if he/she prescribes without legitamite and documented reason, they can lose their license to practice, so likely will not risk it.
    3. No.
    4. Some will, some won't.
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    Excellent read!

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    Hello Aust,

    Have been running my 1st cycle based on this thread, never had any doubts as the info is quite clear.
    Since very early age I have been in and out of gyms, 38 now, been reading and educating myslef on subject for a few years although just recently joined the forum.
    Although Im only in my 3rd week, I have been having a great experience in this cycle. Really feel great, not just physically, already increased 5 kgs, hopefully its not all water lol.
    Maybe it was placebo effect, but I seem to notice the test build since 1st pin, theres definitely something going on!

    Pre cycle BW, test was 582, estradiol 36.

    This test E (UGL) is graded 275mg/ml, been pinning 2xweek 0,8 or 0,9 ml, so I figure around 450mgs per week.
    HCG 2xweek 312,5ui
    Arimidex , started 2xweek 0,5 mgs, then moved to 0,5 eod as felt an itch on left nipple. Can not do 0,25 as I can only get pharma anastrazole pills which are very small, too hard to cut in quarters

    My question is a nipple question (lol). Yesterday pinned at evening as ussual after a good leg workout, also took 0,5 adex in morning. Today woke up with both nipples itching, no lump or puffyness, just like they were a bit dry and itching and maybe a bit harder than ussual.
    3 options:
    1. Increase arimidex to 0.5 ed (no noticiable sides from it yet)
    2. Add Nolva for a few days till dont feel itchy nipples
    3. You are being paranoic, wait 1-2 days

    Whats your opinion?

    Thanks for all!

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    That's likely too much adex. You need blood work as the article states. Itchy nipples are not a diagnoses for anything. If you can't cut your adex, you can run 0.5mg every 3rd day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    That's likely too much adex. You need blood work as the article states. Itchy nipples are not a diagnoses for anything. If you can't cut your adex, you can run 0.5mg every 3rd day.
    Thanks for the input! Will reduce the adex.

    Doing mid cycle BW at 8th week, it costs me over 200$ each BW so really didnt wanted to do it now...

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