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    I have a question concerning Arimidex . It's recommended to take .25 mg eod but these pills are so small that the most I'm able to split them without crumbs/dust is in halves. Would it be ok to take .50mg eod or every 3-4 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzo729 View Post
    I have a question concerning Arimidex. It's recommended to take .25 mg eod but these pills are so small that the most I'm able to split them without crumbs/dust is in halves. Would it be ok to take .50mg eod or every 3-4 days?
    every 3 days should be ok So long as you monitor with blood work as indicated in the article. Or go with liquid form.
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    Austinite,

    This is one of the first posts I've read, and I'm thankful for all your info!! I just turned 22 a month ago and am considering running my first cycle sometime in the next 6 months to a year. If you have any more advice, i'd sincerely appreciate it.

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    Are 500mg/week of Test E the minimum you recommend for a first cycle dosage? I was considering even starting with less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuttyMuscle View Post
    Austinite,

    This is one of the first posts I've read, and I'm thankful for all your info!! I just turned 22 a month ago and am considering running my first cycle sometime in the next 6 months to a year. If you have any more advice, i'd sincerely appreciate it.
    Wait until our 24 or 25 before you start your first cycle. With diet and a good program you can get everything you want natty.

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    what would you reccomend as a first cycle for a beginner 17% bf 66kg 5ft 6 to take 250mg/week test e or 500mg/week test e?
    as some people are saying 250mg is enough and much safer
    thank you help is much appreciated great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by hustler1235 View Post
    what would you reccomend as a first cycle for a beginner 17% bf 66kg 5ft 6 to take 250mg/week test e or 500mg/week test e?
    as some people are saying 250mg is enough and much safer
    thank you help is much appreciated great post
    250 is not enough. 17% BF, personally, I would cut down a bit first.
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    Austinite,

    Great post, what can I do about PCT? unfortunately I can't get my hands on Clomid or Nolva, are there any alternatives that I can use. Please let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifail-1984 View Post
    Austinite,

    Great post, what can I do about PCT? unfortunately I can't get my hands on Clomid or Nolva, are there any alternatives that I can use. Please let me know.
    No alternatives. I would not cycle if I could not perform therapy properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifail-1984 View Post
    Austinite,

    Great post, what can I do about PCT? unfortunately I can't get my hands on Clomid or Nolva, are there any alternatives that I can use. Please let me know.
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    I've heard scare stories of pct with clomid and nolva like they have bad potentially permanent side effects such as affecting eye sight etc..
    Is there a safer alternative for pct or am I just worrying for no reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hustler1235 View Post
    I've heard scare stories of pct with clomid and nolva like they have bad potentially permanent side effects such as affecting eye sight etc..
    Is there a safer alternative for pct or am I just worrying for no reason?
    There are scary stories about everything. Clomid is not any more dangerous than steroids . There are no alternatives currently.
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    Thank you for quick reply learning so much am wondering what disadvantages are there to take steroids at bf of say 20%? Will u still put on muscle? Say a person who is not in good shape takes steroids and fixes his diet/training would he still put on muscle mass? As I've heard steroids are only useful if u have a good foundation but I don't see why an unfit person who fixes up his diet/training while taking steroids can't put on decent muscle mass

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    ^ Hustler, I am beginning to think that you did not read the article. Please read it again and pay attention to details. All your questions have been answered so far. I can't be repetitive.

    Thanks.
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    Austinite i do want to send you a private msg but the forum wont allow me...

    I need to talk to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealQuick View Post
    Austinite i do want to send you a private msg but the forum wont allow me...

    I need to talk to you
    Speak here, I don't do private consulting.
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    Do you prefer using Arimidex on cycle instead of Aromasin because it's non-steroidal?

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    Adex works virtually instantly, where aromasin takes over a weak to get serum levels up. Aromasin is good, but it's weaker than adex. I find adex easier to manage. That's why I prefer adex.
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    Really informative thread. This leaves really no excuse for people to be running cycles improperly as its basically spoon fed to you how to do it here.

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    first cycle

    Hello everyone, I am planning my very first cycle and I would like to receive some critique on it, so feel free to point to anything you think I am missing. Here are my stats:
    I am 31 years old male
    5’9” tall
    180 pounds
    6 % body fat

    I had been training for the last 5 years and had built a nice and lean physique but I feel I am at plateau. I have no injuries.
    My goal is to add 6 to 8 pounds of lean muscle. I am posting my pics at the end.
    I just got my lab work today; I will make a different post to consult you guys on that.

    Here is what I am planning:

    Week 1 to 12: Test E at 400 mg per week (200mg every 3.5 days)
    Week 1 to 12: hCG at 500 IU per wee (250 IU every 3.5 days)
    Week 1 to 12: Adex at 0.50mg every 3 days
    Week 1 to 12: Finasteride (propecia) at 1.25 mg per day

    PCT:

    I will wait 14 days after my last shoot of test E then:

    Clomid at 75/50/50/50 & Nolva at 40/20/20/20

    Just to be clear here: Clomid at 75mg per day the first week and 50mg per day the other three weeks of pct. Nolva at 40mg per day the first week and 20 per day the other three weeks of the pct.
    I also plan blood work at the beginning of week 7 and after my pct. I will then wait at least 18 weeks to start a second cycle.
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    Id like to thank you for this post. Great info.
    I have a question though.

    You mentioned a dosage for Arimidex , but I have aromasin .
    Can you suggest a dose for that please?

    I have 50 tablets at 12.5 mg...

    Thank you Aust
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    Thank u soo much very helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknownn View Post
    Id like to thank you for this post. Great info.
    I have a question though.

    You mentioned a dosage for Arimidex , but I have aromasin .
    Can you suggest a dose for that please?

    I have 50 tablets at 12.5 mg...

    Thank you Aust
    Please read segment # 6 again. thanks.
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    Between the Test E, hCG , Arimidex /Aromasin , Nolvadex , Clomid, and possible Raloxifene with respect to the 18 week total cylce, what do you think the strain is on a healthy liver?

    Just curious, I know you don't recommend it, but what about Letrozole use on the liver?

    peace

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    Just use NAC as stated for the liver.
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    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle-captured_by_snapseed_53_1-1.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    No idea why. Have you had any testicular or head trauma? If not, have a doctor find out why.
    I did the blood work again...

    I am very confused testosterone level went down...
    I found out that I have low iron... doc told me to starting taking pills for 3 months

    check the attachment ... first test and last attached together

    age 26
    weight 192lbs
    height 176cm 5'9
    bodyfat around 12%

    My diet is great and working out 6 days a week...
    I do smoke cigarretes

    anything from you will be appriecated i hope to find out whats wrong with my test

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    are hcg and pregnyl the same thing?

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    Made it through 10 pages of this thread!

    Thanks for keeping me from eating all this free d-Bol I got! I'll definitely be following the advice given, starting with some body fat cuts!
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    This post is amazing, and it gave me everything I needed to know!

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    Is there a way to print this out awesome info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandonT View Post
    Is there a way to print this out awesome info.
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...cle-print.html
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    Perfect read, A+++

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    Is there any concern of estrogen rebound after stopping Arimidex , if so what should be done?

    thanks!

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    If you get low enough its possible. But if you PCT with Tamoxifen as suggested, that will not be an issue.
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    So I have a question about HCG . I'm sure alot of you are familiar with Rich Piana's youtube videos. For those of you that aren't he explained (and this made sense to me) that you are supposed to run hcg with your pct and NOT during your cycle because otherwise you would be sending mixed signals to your body. Injecting synthetic versions of testosterone will temporary shut down your testes and then if you were to inject HCG with that it would be stimulating your testes to produce. To me that sounds counter productive. Why would I want my testes to produce anyways while im on a cycle? Wouldn't I be relying on the test im injecting into my body anyways? I guess I'm just confused as both sources seem like they are genuinely trying to help people yet they have very different opinions. Here's a link to the video, theres a part 1 and 2 for those who haven't seen it. Thanks, I appreciate any feedback. Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZcuPIIvjM Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aERGic7C8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezz View Post
    So I have a question about HCG . I'm sure alot of you are familiar with Rich Piana's youtube videos. For those of you that aren't he explained (and this made sense to me) that you are supposed to run hcg with your pct and NOT during your cycle because otherwise you would be sending mixed signals to your body. Injecting synthetic versions of testosterone will temporary shut down your testes and then if you were to inject HCG with that it would be stimulating your testes to produce. To me that sounds counter productive. Why would I want my testes to produce anyways while im on a cycle? Wouldn't I be relying on the test im injecting into my body anyways? I guess I'm just confused as both sources seem like they are genuinely trying to help people yet they have very different opinions. Here's a link to the video, theres a part 1 and 2 for those who haven't seen it. Thanks, I appreciate any feedback. Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZcuPIIvjM Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aERGic7C8
    he is pretty clueless. Please search for the hcg thread to understand how your body works. Rich provides no real info, just random spews. Sad really.
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    I just figured he seemed knowledgeable being that he has used PED's for over 20 years and I think we can both agree his physique is quite impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezz View Post
    I just figured he seemed knowledgeable being that he has used PED's for over 20 years and I think we can both agree his physique is quite impressive.
    Anyone can get big, Mezz. It doesnt mean he is healthy. Far from it if you ask me. He and his coach are stuck in the 70's and they won't change their ways. Have you ever noticed that they never, ever, not once answer any questions with any intelligent dialogue? No real explanations. Just street talk. These guys really and truly have no clue how the male endocrine system works. Both of them are quite an embarrassment to the community.

    I know a lot of people look up to "big guys", but that doesn't mean they are healthy and/or smart. Certainly not the case with Piana.
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