My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[poizonn]

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[hatem]

Hello everyone.
I'm from Turkey, 32 years old, 1.77m height and about 86kgs now with %15-16 bf.

First of all sorry for my english.

Just started my first steroid cycle as described in this topic.
It was 3 november when i inject first testo e and hcg . Then started arimidex eod 0.25mg.
I was about 80kg with %15bf 15days ago.
Also im using creatine, whey, casein, multivitamins, milk thistle, zinc and nac.

Im following my progress with Tanita.
I see water retention is occured and i easily reached 86kgs from 80kgs.
Now i feel fuller but nothing else yet.
I think i have to wait a few weeks more to see something works.

My question is about training routine.
Here in Turkey people are not open minded.
No problem with being old school. Im one also. But once upon a time people were traveling with ox-cart. I mean we always have to upgrade.
When i tell my friends that im gonna use hcg on cycle they were killing me almost.
And they hardly believe must train 6 days a week and 2 bodyparts every workout.
For last 15 days i do my routine like that but now i feel it doesnt good at all. Yesterday i started to fell kind of pain on my left elbow. So different kimd of pain in upper chest. And sometimes i feel that kind of problems on my knees.

I start to think that may be its better to reduce it to the 3-4 times a week.
What do you think about that? What my workout routine should be?
And yes i start to read Marcus's dairy.

By the way im training almost 3 years or more.

Again sorry for english. Hope to someone helps about this.
Thank you.

[mma1999]

I am brand new to these forums and brand new to cycling. But am considering it for my MMA career. I'm currently amateur and do not get tested for substances and do not plan on going pro for another year. I am looking for the best cycle for me.

I have researched that Test e and EQ is good for bulking and Anavar is good for cutting. Also Halo is great for MMA fighters 4 weeks before a fight and i've also heard SARMS may be beneficial as well.

I would be training 4-5hrs a day: lifting in the mornings and 3 hrs training at night 5-6 days a week. It is difficult for my body to maintain this consistency without any days off.

I appreciate your advice.

[jsnm]

This is a great read,already my second time going through it.

[FluffyBeginner]

Hey guys,

So need a bit of ADVICE ASAP.

So read up on your site and found this comment so decided to go for Tesp P, but twice a week injecting.

Just finished my second week got a couple questions:

Shots 1-3 - 0.50 ml of 100mg Test P
Shots 4-6 - 0.75 ml of Test P
After week 3 was planning on upping to 1ml of 100mg Test P - do you think this is too little?

I have been injecting twice a week Monday and Thursday so far, but should I up to 3 times?

What do you recommend?

PS been injecting into my glutes... is it supposed to be painful the next 2 days?


Stats:

Age: 23
Height: 1.84m
Weight: 90kgs
BF: 14%
Training - Strength 531 3 Times week min
Bench: 115kgs
Squat: 120 kgs
DLift: 180 kgs

Anything else I missed?

I have Nolva, Clomid and HCG on hand for PCT but been reading two different sets of advice - running HCG on cycle and waiting until after. Went with my trainers advice and will run after.

Trainers recommendation:
Week 1-4: Use 0.5 ml of 100mg Tets P for tolerance - TWICE A WEEK
Week 5-8 - Double to 1ml of Test P - TWICE A WEEK

Right now can manage only twice due to the pain and logisitics - am moving . But next week thinking of pinning EOD - 3 times a week?

Will only be able to pin again on Wednesday as will be on the road from Thursday to Saturday and tbh been using nurses at clinic to inject me, still got a bit of needle phobia.


Any advice is appreciated

[austinite]

Guys, for full cycle advice, please start a new thread. This thread is only here to answer questions that are related to the topic and for folks following the protocol.

[powerbrizio]

Hi there, i'm an Italian Sportman. I'd like some advice concerning with my incoming first cycle. I'm going to follow the rules written by Austinite, only testo, HCG during cycle, AI low doses, and Nolvadex .
By the way, I'm a little bit afraid cause last year i did what i realized to be the most stupid and idiot thing ever possible.
I had some jab of Deca , and by what i red very superficially, it was supposed to be one of the safest compound ever.
I did some injection with only that stuff.
****. My nuts shrinked and i had no desire for sex and for some time i also had some ED. I realized after some jab that this was becaouse of the progestinic and totally suppressive nature of Deca.
I let U imagine how i was scared and orrified. Really Frightened.
Then i red really a lot, i learned of HPTA, SERMs, HCG, Naltrexone, etc...
I feel really good now, my drive is nice, and i go on with my life and my trainings as if nothing happened.

Now after all this "paper knowledge" i've made, i'd like to do a "really first cycle" with some more "salt in my had".

Then, Yes, i want to put on some more lean mass and lose some body fat. Nothing straordinary. But my first concern is with general healt and keeping of sex drive, quite fast recovery also.
I think its quite stupid to look lean and muscle, and have drive problems.. Don't?

Then using an only test cycle, what should happen? I realize that after discontinuing, there could be a lack of endogenous testo.
But the eventually ED should be harsher then with Deca?
May be there could be also some downregoulation of some brain receptor or something else due to the 10 times Testo circulating in the body. I don’t know.

Is anybody there with first hand experience on only testo cycle and sex reletad issue?
Regards.
F.

[Donnell]

Very very informative!

[gorex]

Great thread OP.

Is it important to continue using HCG whilst test e are still active in your system? ie running HCG week 1 to 14 instead of 1 to 12.

[ace001]

Great read! Thank you for posting!

[Aerospace]

welcome!!!

[Travis0001]

Interesting read...

[RigPig]

To anyone asking for a source please remember the following!


Read the rules
THIS IS NOT A SOURCE BOARD
YOU CANNOT POST ASKING FOR SOURCES
you can be banned....but worse....
You have now opened your ass up to be ripped off again. You have publicly posted to THOUSANDS of people you are willing to give money away in hopes for a steady source. This is a piss poor idea. If anyone sends you a message with a "source" you will be ripped off. Pull your head out of your ass. If you are willing to take some random strangers word for something on the Internet, you are too reckless to be considering AAS

[Phoenix2015]

Wow great read. Thank you!

[prosp09]

I have an ampule of 5000iu of pregnyl for my hcg . I wanted to put the 5000iu of pregnyl in a 10ml of Bacteriostatic Water. That would give me 10ml of pregnyl. If I inject 1ml of this mixture every week (=500iu), would it be correct for the cycle?? It s just easier for me do it once every week 500iu than twice 250iu because I would have to inject 1/2ml otherwise..
Let me know,
Thank you

[Asoka69]

I am knew to taking steroids or what some companies online call LEGAL STEROIDS,how effective are they really? I tried DMZ 2.0 and many people even on youtube claim it to work. I have tried it for 4 weeks now, it has made me stronger but to be honest I don't think I really look any bigger. I have done quite a bit of research but everyone seems to have different opinions and experiences on the same products sold online,it's so confusing. Has anyone here tried Deca -Drol Max by Iron mag Labs? if so is it any good?

[ocman]

Say on cycle you start to feel gyno coming on, sore and puffy nipples, do you up the arimidex ?

[D-mac85z]

Hey I've never done this before so can some one direct me in thee right path where do I post questions about my first cycle thanks for anyone knowledgeable that can help

[D-mac85z]

Is they anyone who can answer some questions for me about my first cycle

[D-mac85z]

No one

[austinite]

Say on cycle you start to feel gyno coming on, sore and puffy nipples, do you up the arimidex?

Mid-cycle blood work would help indicate if you need more AI.

[austinite]

Hey I've never done this before so can some one direct me in thee right path where do I post questions about my first cycle thanks for anyone knowledgeable that can help

Is they anyone who can answer some questions for me about my first cycle

No one

http://forums.steroid.com/newthread....=newthread&f=2

[fxrjuiceman]

Thanks for taking the time to post this info

[Iron Mind]

Great read. Thanks.

[ocman]

Mid-cycle blood work would help indicate if you need more AI.

If you can answer. Typically, once the gyno symptons start, how long does the process take before you realize you need to do something? I mean say today gyno starts in your body, how long until you feel it?

[bcc94]

Just printed the article and went throught it with a sharpie ; really interesting, down to earth and clear. Thanks for the read! Almost don't feel like starting a cycle now since I guess I could still grow naturally for a while. 5'7 :163lbs : 12% bf

[nes]

Loved this article, now I know where to search when it comes down to nutrition, training and gear !
I asked a lot of locals here and nobody explained it to me like that... sometimes i was wondering if they knew what they were doing ! ( not many had good results thought so I had my answer )

Thank you very much, looking forward to read your articles again !

[austinite]

Just printed the article and went throught it with a sharpie ; really interesting, down to earth and clear. Thanks for the read! Almost don't feel like starting a cycle now since I guess I could still grow naturally for a while. 5'7 :163lbs : 12% bf

Loved this article, now I know where to search when it comes down to nutrition, training and gear !
I asked a lot of locals here and nobody explained it to me like that... sometimes i was wondering if they knew what they were doing ! ( not many had good results thought so I had my answer )

Thank you very much, looking forward to read your articles again !

Welcome aboard guys.

[Aroon Steroid]

Precious information,it will help's me...

[Aroon Steroid]

What about nutrition,realy,dont by garbage from source you dont now.

[Aroon Steroid]

First time i got some shit from a unknown site...after some people help me,where to buy,how to use...and i want to say that,training is very important part,but many people think that 3 days a week is enought....well,is not...

[Gorgos]

First time i got some shit from a unknown site...after some people help me,where to buy,how to use...and i want to say that,training is very important part,but many people think that 3 days a week is enought....well,is not...

3 days is enough if u have a solid plan.

[lovbyts]

First time i got some shit from a unknown site...after some people help me,where to buy,how to use...and i want to say that,training is very important part,but many people think that 3 days a week is enought....well,is not...

We are a little different, not a source board and we focus on the safest practice possible including the advice of NOT using aas many times because people are just not ready for many reasons.

Diet/nutrition and training are key.

It's also a good idea to not only punctuate but leaving a space after a comma.

[Pushem out]

Thank you very much for the information. This will help out a heck of alot, you really have taken enlightenment to a whole new level Austinite. Subscribing to this one for sure.

There Are Two Ways to Do Something ... the Right Way, and Again

[Swole Intentions]

Wow, I've already run multiple cycles and it's amazing to realize after re-reading this article how important it is to stick to the basics. Always a good read and great for referring newbies

[HaztheMaz]

I just Turned 30 and I am also starting my first cycle. I really want to know if anyone has seen the 25mg Winstrol i got i checked all over the internet and cant find them. There Just Yellow with no Imprints on front or back I have a picture can anyone please let me know if these are real or fake winstrol 25MG Tablets Please As i am very eager to start a cycle and have trained natural my whole life since i was 16 and i feel i hit a peak. Any help would be appreciated please thank you. This is also my first day joining this site and i love it.

I also forgot to mention they kind of have tiny pink dots on the sides of them i tried to get as close as possible but it wouldn't show that's how tiny the pink dots are. Please any feedback if anyone has ever seen these or if you ever have tried them or if they are EVEN real i have not begun my cycle yet i want to see if these are real first before buying anymore stuff from this person

Here is where i am at now I would like to get more cut i don't want to get any bigger size is fine i just want more cuts and veins what do you guys suggest. I have been Natural since i started working out at age of 16 I am now ready

[austinite]

^ Haz, please start a new thread for replies.

[Avi3510]

It took me nearly four days to read this whole thread and it was so worth it. I feel more secure in making a sound decision. I have a question about getting blood tests. I live in NY where apparently you need a doc to sign a script for bw so I can't do it online. I don't know if I should take this to a new thread, but I was wondering if I should just come right out and tell him what I'm doing and ask for help staying smart and healthy. My fear is that he won't approve ethically and deny me getting the bw done. What then? Find a doc who will? Thanks in advance.

[Avi3510]

Scratch my previous question. Posted in another thread and got my answer regarding docs. I have another question; how many cycles would/ could I expect to see results with this one before I would want to start adding other aas'? As long as diet and training are on point of course.

[austinite]

Your body does not become immune to testosterone . Some folks cycle testosterone as the sole compound for decades. Just depends on your goals really.