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    Chris step one would be blood work to see how things look after your first effort at this.
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    how bad of an idea would it be to extend this cycle plan to 15 or 16 weeks??

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmac View Post
    how bad of an idea would it be to extend this cycle plan to 15 or 16 weeks??
    Seems to be a bad idea. From my research and what Iíve heard myostatin production starts kicking in pretty heavily after 10-12 weeks meaning itís killing off the extra Test youíre taking in.

    Other negatives of that approach are more time on means more time off before you can start another cycle (if youíre doing things right) so if youíre like me youíll be keen to get to a second more exciting cycle when youíve finished seeing how you go with Test only.

    Essentially, extending this cycle means you will have to wait longer for the next cycle and the law of diminishing returns will kick in before the end of the cycle. Iím sure some vets will be able to elaborate on these points. Just stick to the 12 weeks

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    I agree with some of Jerry's point . if your only running test then there is no need to go past 12 weeks in most cases

    couple instances where running longer then 12 weeks may be needed or beneficial
    - your running long long esters like EQ and Deca
    - your prepping for a show or cutting . if myostatin is unregulated after 10 weeks thats fine cause losing body fat and hardening up the muscle is the goal here, not growing.
    - if you blast and cruise and not worried about hpta recovery
    - if your running other 'growth factors' that can help you grow without upregulating myostatin, like HGH, insulin , IGF

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    Hello everyone,

    Frist time poster here.
    It would be great to get some experienced feedback. Hopefully Iím not alone in this.

    Iím 37, male, 5í7 & 78kgs. My sports experience consists of rugby, boxing, bjj and weights to suit my sports throughout my life.

    I was 30 when I stopped boxing, suffered a fractured eye socket in my last fight. This with many black eyes and broken noses I have had my share of concussions.
    I felt a difference in myself around 31, I describe it as my fire went out. I found it hard to pump myself up for heavy lifts, the bedroom intimacy dropped off and in general I just wasnít my old self.
    Now me changing and being more mellow is also a good thing but the other changes are not. I consulted multiple doctors on the issue. Tested my testosterone and other blood markers. Drís stated that the test levels were within acceptable ranges. Unfortunately I never tested my levels when I felt good, so I could not compare.
    I did not go down the self medication route as I wanted kids. So I carried on, depression popped up now and again, sports dropped off and weight went up to 83kgs of fat.
    I now have 2 beautiful girls. So 7 weeks ago I started a cycle.
    Bolendone - 400mg/week 1-10
    Test Enanthate 250mg/week 1-11
    Anavar 30mg/day, week 8-13
    Clomid starting at the end of week 13

    The first 6 weeks have been great, really great. I felt like I remember. I just felt good within myself. The bedroom life has improved aswell.
    Training, I am doing a lot of running and 2 days of weightlifting a week. I am focusing on the running.

    Some issues have appeared in the last week.
    1 Ė Little white head spots on my shoulder area and neck.
    2 Ė Drop off in the excitement below the waist.

    There are a few things I want;
    I want to feel good long term, keep the fire (mood & general happiness)
    I want the bedroom to stay improved.
    I want to concentrate on running 80%, weights 20%.

    Any feedback is appreciated.
    Thank you all in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macksno View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Frist time poster here.
    It would be great to get some experienced feedback. Hopefully I’m not alone in this.

    I’m 37, male, 5’7 & 78kgs. My sports experience consists of rugby, boxing, bjj and weights to suit my sports throughout my life.

    I was 30 when I stopped boxing, suffered a fractured eye socket in my last fight. This with many black eyes and broken noses I have had my share of concussions.
    I felt a difference in myself around 31, I describe it as my fire went out. I found it hard to pump myself up for heavy lifts, the bedroom intimacy dropped off and in general I just wasn’t my old self.
    Now me changing and being more mellow is also a good thing but the other changes are not. I consulted multiple doctors on the issue. Tested my testosterone and other blood markers. Dr’s stated that the test levels were within acceptable ranges. Unfortunately I never tested my levels when I felt good, so I could not compare.
    I did not go down the self medication route as I wanted kids. So I carried on, depression popped up now and again, sports dropped off and weight went up to 83kgs of fat.
    I now have 2 beautiful girls. So 7 weeks ago I started a cycle.
    Bolendone - 400mg/week 1-10
    Test Enanthate 250mg/week 1-11
    Anavar 30mg/day, week 8-13
    Clomid starting at the end of week 13

    The first 6 weeks have been great, really great. I felt like I remember. I just felt good within myself. The bedroom life has improved aswell.
    Training, I am doing a lot of running and 2 days of weightlifting a week. I am focusing on the running.

    Some issues have appeared in the last week.
    1 – Little white head spots on my shoulder area and neck.
    2 – Drop off in the excitement below the waist.

    There are a few things I want;
    I want to feel good long term, keep the fire (mood & general happiness)
    I want the bedroom to stay improved.
    I want to concentrate on running 80%, weights 20%.

    Any feedback is appreciated.
    Thank you all in advance.
    Start a new Thread in the Q & A section and you will get feedback. This is not a thread that gets a lot of attention anymore. It is more of a learning/reading thread. Welcome to the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macksno View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Frist time poster here.
    It would be great to get some experienced feedback. Hopefully I’m not alone in this.

    I’m 37, male, 5’7 & 78kgs. My sports experience consists of rugby, boxing, bjj and weights to suit my sports throughout my life.

    I was 30 when I stopped boxing, suffered a fractured eye socket in my last fight. This with many black eyes and broken noses I have had my share of concussions.
    I felt a difference in myself around 31, I describe it as my fire went out. I found it hard to pump myself up for heavy lifts, the bedroom intimacy dropped off and in general I just wasn’t my old self.
    Now me changing and being more mellow is also a good thing but the other changes are not. I consulted multiple doctors on the issue. Tested my testosterone and other blood markers. Dr’s stated that the test levels were within acceptable ranges. Unfortunately I never tested my levels when I felt good, so I could not compare.
    I did not go down the self medication route as I wanted kids. So I carried on, depression popped up now and again, sports dropped off and weight went up to 83kgs of fat.
    I now have 2 beautiful girls. So 7 weeks ago I started a cycle.
    Bolendone - 400mg/week 1-10
    Test Enanthate 250mg/week 1-11
    Anavar 30mg/day, week 8-13
    Clomid starting at the end of week 13

    The first 6 weeks have been great, really great. I felt like I remember. I just felt good within myself. The bedroom life has improved aswell.
    Training, I am doing a lot of running and 2 days of weightlifting a week. I am focusing on the running.

    Some issues have appeared in the last week.
    1 – Little white head spots on my shoulder area and neck.
    2 – Drop off in the excitement below the waist.

    There are a few things I want;
    I want to feel good long term, keep the fire (mood & general happiness)
    I want the bedroom to stay improved.
    I want to concentrate on running 80%, weights 20%.

    Any feedback is appreciated.
    Thank you all in advance.
    you don't really need steroids to be in a good mood, bang your wife, and run . you just need a good mindset, a hard cock, and a pair of running shoes

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    I second the q and a recommendation

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    Hey, I am a new member and just read your post. It was very informative, thanks.
    I'm definitely not responsible though as I am 7 weeks into my first cycle.

    Equipoise -EQ 400mg/week 1-10
    Test Enanthate 250mg/week 1-11
    Anavar 30mg/day, week 8-13
    Clomid starting at the end of week 13

    What should I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macksno View Post
    Hey, I am a new member and just read your post. It was very informative, thanks.
    I'm definitely not responsible though as I am 7 weeks into my first cycle.

    Equipoise -EQ 400mg/week 1-10
    Test Enanthate 250mg/week 1-11
    Anavar 30mg/day, week 8-13
    Clomid starting at the end of week 13

    What should I do?

    stop, no, and don't

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    Thanks for replying.
    Do I just stop everything immediately and start PCT or just stop?

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    Your already 7 weeks in. Drop the var.
    Find HCG immediately and run it at 250 iu's x 2 or 3 pw up to 3 days prior to pct.
    Run your pct as listed in this thread. Meaning add nolva.
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    Thanks, it’s done.

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    I'm starting my PCT today. However, with the Nolva i purchased, it comes in 25mg capsules, so i can't dose exactly 40/20/20/20 as outlined....

    what's your thoughts on dosing at 50/25/25/25 ??

    Would it make any difference if i did 2x 25mg daily for the first week? one morning one night...
    as for weeks 2 to 4, just take 25mg per day?

    I'll be taking Clomid as suggested, 75/50/50/50

    Lastly - does it matter what time of day Clomid and Nolva are taken? Before after food? etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmac View Post
    I'm starting my PCT today. However, with the Nolva i purchased, it comes in 25mg capsules, so i can't dose exactly 40/20/20/20 as outlined....

    what's your thoughts on dosing at 50/25/25/25 ??

    Would it make any difference if i did 2x 25mg daily for the first week? one morning one night...
    as for weeks 2 to 4, just take 25mg per day?

    I'll be taking Clomid as suggested, 75/50/50/50

    Lastly - does it matter what time of day Clomid and Nolva are taken? Before after food? etc..
    nolva would be fine at that dosage

    i usually take it in the morning with food

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    Hei for start Thanks for All Informațions Great stuf , And sorry for bad english .But i have a question about How using hcg The Most popular using is that u are saying But i Read in another forum about using HCG just 4 weeks At The End of a cicle for example u run 1-12 weeks test Enantat 2 weeks pause (13,14)And 4 weeks (15,16,17,18)post cicle And They Said to use hcg in Week 11,12,13,14. What u guys are saying about This ?
    Last edited by Anton93; 01-09-2018 at 03:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton93 View Post
    Hei for start Thanks for All Informațions Great stuf , And sorry for bad english .But i have a question about How using hcg The Most popular using is that u are saying But i Read in another forum about using HCG just 4 weeks At The End of a cicle for example u run 1-12 weeks test Enantat 2 weeks pause (13,14)And 4 weeks (15,16,17,18)post cicle And They Said to use hcg in Week 11,12,13,14. What u guys are saying about This ?
    it makes much more sense to use hCG during cycle only.

    there's a whole thread dedicated to why hCG should be taken during cycle only... i cannot post the link to the thread but to find the thread, do a google search for this (copy and paste it into a google search) >>

    HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only site:steroid.com
    Last edited by leanmac; 01-11-2018 at 05:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton93 View Post
    Hei for start Thanks for All Informațions Great stuf , And sorry for bad english .But i have a question about How using hcg The Most popular using is that u are saying But i Read in another forum about using HCG just 4 weeks At The End of a cicle for example u run 1-12 weeks test Enantat 2 weeks pause (13,14)And 4 weeks (15,16,17,18)post cicle And They Said to use hcg in Week 11,12,13,14. What u guys are saying about This ?
    Simply put, why shut down your testicals if you don't have to. You wouldn't do that with any other body part, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditrih View Post
    Hi guys ! Tell me hwo used this product? Link removed. I want 500 mg / 1 week 10 weeks
    Do not buy that shit off of craigslist. That is Equipoise and you can find all sorts of information about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David LoPan View Post
    Do not buy that shit off of craigslist. That is Equipoise and you can find all sorts of information about it.
    Bold from Spectrum Farma bad quality?

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