Gyno occuring during pct. whats going on?

[Spintix]

Question: I am at the end of my third week of pct which I run at 4 weeks of nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50. I am experiencing gyno symptoms of puffiness and soreness in both nipples and it is not subsiding. I even pumped up the nolva to 60 for this past week and still no decrease in sides. I ordered some letro the other day and am planning on trying that out after pct to shrink a half a pea sized lump under the right nipple. what advice can you give me as far as running letro to decrease my side effects? Been really worried lately and can't stop thinking about it.. I also have been taking DAA (D-Aspartic acid) during my PCT which I am going to cut out since i think it might be helping to keep the gyno symptoms from subsiding. I am also running IGF-lr3 during pct as well.





Stats
I am 25 , 5'11 fluctuating at 200lb and guessing 10-12%bf. First cycle was 8 weeks of testosterone enenthate at 500mg a week for 8 weeks (may 2012) for a cut. Second cycle was 800mg (little overdose) of test400 at 12 weeks (went from 180 to 215 in 12 weeks with a loss of 12lb water weight) in december 2012. I also ran adex on the second cycle at .5 ed. PCT was same for both cycles at 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex and 100/100/50/50 Clomid. Also ran IGF-lr3 after second cycle for 4 weeks at 50mcg ed sub-q to help preserve gains as well. Third cycle of test prop at 125mg eod and hcg 500iu 2x a week.

[austinite]

I would avoid Letro. There's really no need for 60mg of Nolvadex. Gynecomastia reversal takes time and patience. If you choose to continue with Nolvadex as your treatment drug, stay at no more than 40mg daily. You will not notice any changes in one week of administration, or 2 or 3 weeks even.

Your best option for gynecomastia reversal is Tamoxifen's sister SERM; Raloxifene. You can dose Raloxifene at 60mg daily until your gynecomastia is reversed. Both Tamox and Ralox will take time. You should notice a difference around 4 to 6 weeks and treatment, depending on severity, could take several months.

Best of luck.

[Gaspaco]

I would avoid Letro. There's really no need for 60mg of Nolvadex. Gynecomastia reversal takes time and patience. If you choose to continue with Nolvadex as your treatment drug, stay at no more than 40mg daily. You will not notice any changes in one week of administration, or 2 or 3 weeks even.

Your best option for gynecomastia reversal is Tamoxifen's sister SERM; Raloxifene. You can dose Raloxifene at 60mg daily until your gynecomastia is reversed. Both Tamox and Ralox will take time. You should notice a difference around 4 to 6 weeks and treatment, depending on severity, could take several months.

Best of luck.

Is it possible to cure 8year old pubertal gyno with raloxifene?

[austinite]

Is it possible to cure 8year old pubertal gyno with raloxifene?

Yes. The older it is the harder it gets. But cost and time sure beats surgery. For me at least. Worth a try.

[Spintix]

I would avoid Letro. There's really no need for 60mg of Nolvadex. Gynecomastia reversal takes time and patience. If you choose to continue with Nolvadex as your treatment drug, stay at no more than 40mg daily. You will not notice any changes in one week of administration, or 2 or 3 weeks even.

Your best option for gynecomastia reversal is Tamoxifen's sister SERM; Raloxifene. You can dose Raloxifene at 60mg daily until your gynecomastia is reversed. Both Tamox and Ralox will take time. You should notice a difference around 4 to 6 weeks and treatment, depending on severity, could take several months.

Best of luck.

Oh damn, I already ordered the letro though because thats the only one I found in my research. I guess I'll just stick with nolvadex then. Would you also recommend cutting out the DAA or should I leave it? supposedly it can increase estrogen and prolactin but many think its bs

[Gaspaco]

Yes.

How big is the chance?

How much better is ralox than nolva?

[austinite]

I don't know how to quantify it for you until I find the studies. but Ralox has come ahead of Nolvadex in studies for gynecomastia reversal, clearly the superior compound.

[Gaspaco]

I don't know how to quantify it for you until I find the studies. but Ralox has come ahead of Nolvadex in studies for gynecomastia reversal, clearly the superior compound.

What are the sides of 60mg/day?

[austinite]

zero side effects. Not even at 80mg for me or in the studies.

[Gaspaco]

zero side effects. Not even at 80mg for me or in the studies.

I am going to give it a try, how long can 8year old gyno cure take?? 6-8weeks?

Should I split the dose or take it on once?

[austinite]

No. Nothing is really reversed in weeks. months, could be 3 months, could be 9. Don't get discouraged and stay consistent. No need to split.

[Gaspaco]

No. Nothing is really reversed in weeks. months, could be 3 months, could be 9. Don't get discouraged and stay consistent. No need to split.

Thanks bud