Your ideas Steroid Cycle

[DVD_Administrator]

Hello Guys, Dears I'm going on a cycle it will be my first cycle i intend to take Test Propionate and Deca phyniprobinate.
A-Test Propionate 100 mg/ml
B-Deca phyniprobinate Each 1ml per 10 ml Vial contains 100 mg Nandrolone Phenylpropionate.

I need to know how should I take them together to maximize the result and if it's beneficial to take Pregnyl 5,000unit at the 3-4 week "as I'm fear from deca dick" or if I raise the amount of test propionate more than Deca Phenyl Propionate deca dick will not occur? I'm married by the way

My friend told me to take Test for 10 weeks " 150mg EOD" means 600 Mg by the first week and take Deca Phenyl Propionate 100 Mg EOD" to be 400 MG total in the first week.
so as a brief

Test Propionate will be like the following
Week 1 600 MG of test Propionate
Week 2 1050 MG of test Propionate
Week 3 1650 MG of test Propionate
Week 4 2100 MG of test Propionate
Week 5 2700 MG of test Propionate
Week 6 3150 MG of test Propionate
Week 7 3750 MG of test Propionate
Week 8 4200 MG of test Propionate
Week 9 4800 MG of test Propionate
Week 10 5250 MG of test Propionate

is it good to run Test For 10 weeks with the does above and Deca with dose 400 mg per week for 8 weeks or this will be a lot on the first cycle ?? or to run test with the same does for 8 weeks and deca with the same does above for 6 weeks meanwhile using HCG at the third week of the course ?
What about the PCT as well?
I've as well bought a nice stuff of Supplements and take care of nutrition.

Need your attention and waiting your reply ASAP.

[AD]

5gm of prop on wk 10? sound like a "GREAT" idea

especially for a first cycle lol

[austinite]

What's your body fat percentage, height, weight and training experience?

First cycle should be Test only. 150 EOD is 525 per week, not 600. hCG on cycle from week 1 till the end. Why no aromatase inhibitor??

Not sure what your weekly chart above indicates, but those numbers make no sense.

You really need to propose a full and complete cycle for critique, including PCT.

[DVD_Administrator]

What's your body fat percentage, height, weight and training experience?

First cycle should be Test only. 150 EOD is 525 per week, not 600. hCG on cycle from week 1 till the end. Why no aromatase inhibitor??

Not sure what your weekly chart above indicates, but those numbers make no sense.

You really need to propose a full and complete cycle for critique, including PCT.

Age is 27 , tall is 180 cm , weight 79 KG and Body fat 15 % training experience about three years.

I was asking about the 150 Mg per shot for the test propionate like the schedule below , I think I got wrong on expressions "EOD"
Daily Chart for the first week

Saturday 150
Sunday off
Monday 150
Tuesday off
Wednesday 150
Thursday off
Friday 150

why I can't include Nandrolone Phenylpropionate with the first cycle ?
And about the HCG is it recommended to take it from day one and if so how much per week "5000 IU"?
AI like nolvadex what is the recommended dose throw the cycle?

[austinite]

All of your questions are answered in the link below:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[DVD_Administrator]

I really get a lot of useful information from your article really appreciated.
But what about test Propionate for the first cycle ??? I really need your advice and I've already purchased it and the deca phenylpropionate as well ?? I'm at a maze please help

[austinite]

^ Test prop is also answered in that article. You can use it. please read it in its entirety. You have to do some leg work. I spent a lot of time putting that info together, I'd really appreciate 20 minutes of your time to read it.

[DVD_Administrator]

So As per the article and my understanding
I need to inject at a minimum of 100 to 150 every other day or 50 to 75 daily so the week one gains is about 400 -525 mg . And time frame for this Short ester cycle should last 8 weeks.
HCG -- 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
Arimidex or nolvadex "- Tamoxifen Citrate " 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

by the way I can only get nolvadex at my country is it ok ?? or I've to get arimidex??


PCT however, starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone .
should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid). PCT protocol for this cycle should look like the following:

Clomid -- 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex --40/20/20/20

anything else

[austinite]

I have no idea what week 1 gains means. That doesn't mean anything.

Arimidex on cycle, nolva and clomid PCT. Looks good.

[DVD_Administrator]

sorry for disturbing u with my words that u can't get easily i mean by that words

I will inject about 400-525 Mg of test at the first week.
throw the cycle i will use as well the following stuff,
HCG -- 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
Nolvadex "- Tamoxifen Citrate " 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

and for the PCT

Starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone .
should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).
PCT protocol for this cycle should look like the following:
Clomid -- 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex --40/20/20/20

but what about HCG at the PCT Will I need it or using it throw the cycle will make the natural production of testosterone is good??

I've purchased a test freak for the PCT is it good or I have to add something like Animal M-stak and Animal stak

[austinite]

no. all wrong again.


- hCG on cycle only. 250 IU twice a week.
- Arimidex on cycle only. 0.25 every other day.
- nolvadex for PCT, not on cycle. Use with clomid as you outlined.

Everything animal stak is complete garbage and waste of money.

Good luck.

[crazy mike]

Listen I wouldn't bash you like I probably should. S I'll be nice. Listen by what you wrote the first time tells us you have NO CLUE, NONE as to what you are doing. I can see that you don't even understand Austinite's article. I won't go into what all you don't know, I'll leave it at you should not do this. You need to understand what you are doing to your body and all the ramifications and all of the precautionary measures such as using an AI and what that is and why.
Please stop and don't go forward until you understand what you are doing and not just what someone is telling you what to do. There is so much wrong with your proposal. ...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

no. all wrong again.


- hCG on cycle only. 250 IU twice a week.
- Arimidex on cycle only. 0.25 every other day.
- nolvadex for PCT, not on cycle. Use with clomid as you outlined.

Everything animal stak is complete garbage and waste of money.

Good luck.

You need to know WHY you use these things. ...crazy mike

[DVD_Administrator]

just a last thing test freak is better that Animal stak right and thanks again for your time and patient

[austinite]

Do you look at labels at all? test freak and animal stak are both garbage. Waste of money.

[DVD_Administrator]

Listen I wouldn't bash you like I probably should. S I'll be nice. Listen by what you wrote the first time tells us you have NO CLUE, NONE as to what you are doing. I can see that you don't even understand Austinite's article. I won't go into what all you don't know, I'll leave it at you should not do this. You need to understand what you are doing to your body and all the ramifications and all of the precautionary measures such as using an AI and what that is and why.
Please stop and don't go forward until you understand what you are doing and not just what someone is telling you what to do. There is so much wrong with your proposal. ...crazy mike

Thanks Mr. Carzy mike;

I really appreciate your Concern and I know that I was strange in writing this post , I did a lot of researches and I found out that Test Propionate is the fast and safest Test to take "in case I've any issue it will not last for a long time I mean side effect not like ena or cypo" but I'm at a amaze just why some people says that AI is a must in the cycle and other say it's a waste of money, I knew why it's important for anyone "not to be bloat and other reasons" but just I didn't sleep from about 20 hours .
So thanks again and If you can help me on what to do please advice.

[DVD_Administrator]

Do you look at labels at all? test freak and animal stak are both garbage. Waste of money.

So please advice for a better test booster

[DVD_Administrator]

forgive me for the bad language And expressing

[austinite]

So please advice for a better test booster

Clomid and Nolvadex .

[DVD_Administrator]

thanks Aust

[austinite]

Anytime, buddy.

[freshmaz]

Could anybody help me I have been advised that a good cycle for my size would be Tri-trenabol 150mg/ml, Stanabol 50mg/ml, testosterone propionate 1000mg/ml all one ml a week on a 10 wk cycle is this info any good?

[crazy mike]

Thanks Mr. Carzy mike;

I really appreciate your Concern and I know that I was strange in writing this post , I did a lot of researches and I found out that Test Propionate is the fast and safest Test to take "in case I've any issue it will not last for a long time I mean side effect not like ena or cypo" but I'm at a amaze just why some people says that AI is a must in the cycle and other say it's a waste of money, I knew why it's important for anyone "not to be bloat and other reasons" but just I didn't sleep from about 20 hours .
So thanks again and If you can help me on what to do please advice.

There is much you seem to not know. That's ok, but you need to forge forward with more research for your own good. It seems you don't know about Gyno and high Estrogen levels caused by increased Test. So you need an Ai always. Not on hand but in your system when doing any test. Also Test prop requires injection EOD and that's a lot for a beginner also Testosterone can be mild in it's sides if taken properly with an Ai so It's better to start with Test Enanthate . So the half life being 10 days your Ai will take care and you don't need to think of an emergency bail out. You will be ok to just stop. Prop can be a jolt for a first timer.
So that's just a few thoughts by me. Good luck reading more. ...crazy mike

[MajorPectorial]

Yes I agree... but... with both op in the case that he's correct in prop being out the system quicker if he were to encounter bad sides.

But...


I'd go on past experience and personal judgment with test e. As a first cycle for a few reasons

Less pinning
Easier to keep hormonal balance due to the long ester
Usually less painful

The last doesn't bother me. But. It might bother u.

However I would as a first cycle only use test too

Leave the 19nor compounds (test/tren ) for future cycles if needed.

The reason being if you get bad sides. Is it the test?. Or the deca ? You simply won't know.

I've been fine with all. N prefer long esters except tren. Tren I would always advise I short ester like acetate because of its sheer strength n amount people CAN suffer with sides. Like u say. Can be stopped quicker due to its short ester.

But with test. Its such a basic compound. Basically what your bodies used to I'd go with a long ester as unless your going way up in dose. The likelihood of bad sides is relatively low.


And I've probably confused the hell out of you. But hopefully explained the "why" people use different esters etc.

[MajorPectorial]

Could anybody help me I have been advised that a good cycle for my size would be Tri-trenabol 150mg/ml, Stanabol 50mg/ml, testosterone propionate 1000mg/ml all one ml a week on a 10 wk cycle is this info any good?

Start a new thread buddy.

Post ur stats

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat
Years training
Diet example
Cycle experience Inc. Types/amounts/no cycles

[DVD_Administrator]

There is much you seem to not know. That's ok, but you need to forge forward with more research for your own good. It seems you don't know about Gyno and high Estrogen levels caused by increased Test. So you need an Ai always. Not on hand but in your system when doing any test. Also Test prop requires injection EOD and that's a lot for a beginner also Testosterone can be mild in it's sides if taken properly with an Ai so It's better to start with Test Enanthate . So the half life being 10 days your Ai will take care and you don't need to think of an emergency bail out. You will be ok to just stop. Prop can be a jolt for a first timer.
So that's just a few thoughts by me. Good luck reading more. ...crazy mike

thanks a lot great "Crazy Mike"

[DVD_Administrator]

Yes I agree... but... with both op in the case that he's correct in prop being out the system quicker if he were to encounter bad sides.

But...


I'd go on past experience and personal judgment with test e. As a first cycle for a few reasons

Less pinning
Easier to keep hormonal balance due to the long ester
Usually less painful

The last doesn't bother me. But. It might bother u.

However I would as a first cycle only use test too

Leave the 19nor compounds (test/tren ) for future cycles if needed.

The reason being if you get bad sides. Is it the test?. Or the deca ? You simply won't know.

I've been fine with all. N prefer long esters except tren. Tren I would always advise I short ester like acetate because of its sheer strength n amount people CAN suffer with sides. Like u say. Can be stopped quicker due to its short ester.

But with test. Its such a basic compound. Basically what your bodies used to I'd go with a long ester as unless your going way up in dose. The likelihood of bad sides is relatively low.


And I've probably confused the hell out of you. But hopefully explained the "why" people use different esters etc.

Thanks a lot for the clarification Mr MajorPectorial

[SlinKing]

5gm of prop on wk 10? sound like a "GREAT" idea

especially for a first cycle lol

sounds like something i'd do, to be honest.

"gotta get my bench up. got 5 vials of prop, lets shoot it!"

next day...

"oh gawd why can't i walk. or move. or get out of bed. goddam pip!"