When the goal is not to put on much more mass.

**Javelin** · 08-17-2013, 08:56 PM

So my question is when putting mass on isn't the goal and shredding the fat becomes the main target, aside from diet, water and cardio what are some of the best steroid options for achieving this.

I have read around quite a bit and I've seen anavar and winstrol come up quite often. Though I also see a lot of comments about not doing them just by themselves which I can understand if the goal is to build more mass but would they be effective at all on their own if mass is not the target?

**bigdippin** · 08-17-2013, 08:58 PM

Do you have any AAS experience?
Whats your age, BF, experience?

**austinite** · 08-17-2013, 09:00 PM

Any steroid can be dosed properly to stave off muscle waste while in a caloric deficit. Nothing will actually work well if body fat isn't low. But assuming body fat is low, Primobolan , Masteron and Winstrol are 3 of my favorites on a cut as they help produce great definition and other physical characteristics that others can't.

**Javelin** · 08-17-2013, 09:03 PM

I don't have AAS experience as I'm new to it, I'm 31, 6'2, 210 lbs, I haven't had it measured but if I had to take a guess I'd say between 13-16% or so.

**Bert** · 08-18-2013, 06:47 AM

Cardio and diet are your friend.

**spywizard** · 08-18-2013, 07:17 AM

primo and Halo is what i'm rolling right now, and 1st time with primo i'm liking it very much

**kiderro** · 08-18-2013, 07:19 AM

bolden, winstrol , anavar , trenbolon
they are good for strength more than size

**austinite** · 08-18-2013, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

primo and Halo is what i'm rolling right now, and 1st time with primo i'm liking it very much

Running diuretics?

**Javelin** · 08-19-2013, 06:56 PM

Thanks for the info guys, appreciate it. I think I may try winstrol then in my routine and see what kind of results I get there before adding anything else to it.

**Whiteboyy0** · 08-19-2013, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

primo and Halo is what i'm rolling right now, and 1st time with primo i'm liking it very much

How's the halo treating you? Interesting compound

**OnTheSauce** · 08-19-2013, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Javelin

Thanks for the info guys, appreciate it. I think I may try winstrol then in my routine and see what kind of results I get there before adding anything else to it.

You can't take Winstrol alone

**Wes201** · 09-01-2013, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by OnTheSauce

You can't take Winstrol alone

I hope that you know this ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
So assuming that you do know, or if not, then at least took this mans advice, Have you been able to come up with a cycle to run to help you achieve your specific goals. And also, do you know about pct? What it is? It's importance? and proper dose/duration? I ask that because you said before that you have no aas experience.
I am able to see that you are on the site and logged in but yet you still have no new posts. Your still only at 6 and you joined the forum a couple of weeks ago. You need to get much closer to 50 before the site will permit me to pm you even though we are friends. Hope you see this

**Magical** · 09-01-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Javelin

Thanks for the info guys, appreciate it. I think I may try winstrol then in my routine and see what kind of results I get there before adding anything else to it.

I have done Winstrol only, it shut down my natural test. When I came off the Winstrol I lost all my results and I didnt have it in me to even work out anymore. Took me a long time to get back to normal. Trust me, you dont want to go through it