Need some Advice for a Noooob lol

[ninjaman85]

Hey all,

I am looking into my first beginers stack and just needed some help with my indecisive mind.
5'9" 175lbs 27 y.o lifting 7 years couple on and off spells bf% is pretty low since I do paleo lifestyle.
I lift 4 times a week with 2 cardio/ab days and one off day.

after extensive reading and research I think my best options are Test 400 and Deca 300 or Winstrol and D-Bol.

I want harder muscle and to get up to 185-190lbs without sacrificing my tone or athleticism. Just want an all around bigger harder look. I am also deathly afraid of balding so if there are any other better combos anyone knows of or any advice at all it would be greatly appreciated

Thank you in advanced!

[VzThunder]

For your first cycle you should run test only, no point in stacking it yet because if you get side effects from it you won't know what caused it, if you start with test and then stack something else next time if any issues appear you can easily determine what caused it.

[ninjaman85]

hmmm good point

[ninjaman85]

the problem is test only cycles seem to jack up your strength and a lot of guys' joints can't handle that and in turn they get injured. So I kind of want to do the deca for that reason.

[austinite]

the problem is test only cycles seem to jack up your strength and a lot of guys' joints can't handle that and in turn they get injured. So I kind of want to do the deca for that reason.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[crazy mike]

Way too many compounds. Most Vets don't do that. No need for Winstrol . You should read what Aust~ said and Test will do all you need and more for a beginner. ...crazy mike

[ninjaman85]

I'm not doing all those compounds, I was stating that I either want to do oral or inj but I have decided to inj so I am only going to do Deca and Test weeks 1-9 then only test prop weeks 9-12 with clomid and nova pct x30-45 days.

[Bio-Active]

Why not just run test and see how it goes? If you choose to run both and sides come up you won't which compound is causing it and it will make it much harder to manage the sides. Have you considered running hcg along side your cycle and an AI for estrogen control? What's your planned pct?

[ninjaman85]

ya, I am looking into running hcg alongside, and my pct would consist of nolva and clomid 30-45 days. It is a pretty low first cycle already. I am sure 9 weeks of deca at 300 is not going to cause heavy side effects, it is good to have so that my muscles don't over do my tendons, I do not want a snapped bicep like some of the guys I see getting too rambunctious with test only cycles.
After doing my research im thinking my cyc would be:
weeks 1-9 test 400 and deca 300
weeks 9-12 test prop
piggy backed with hcg
then 24 hrs after last pin, 30-45 days of nalva and clomid

[Bio-Active]

I see people injuring themselves when they don't train smart. Train smart, use good form and don't overdue it and you will be fine