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    Help quick!

    About 9 weeks ago I started my first testosterone enanthate cycle at 500 mg a week seperated in 2 injections. With arimidex eod at .5 mg. I started at 5'8 178 lbs and I'm 22. I don't wanna hear shit about my age because I did my research and talked to my endocrinologist and tests proved I am fully developed. The first vial was underdosed at I was at 1500 ng/dl after a month. And gained about 5 lbs after the first vial putting me at 182 lbs and about 9-10 % bf. this last week I just got my bloodwork done to see how my second vial was doing after taking it for about 3 weeks. And my blood work said I was at 44 ng/dl! I just got this call from my nurse. However I have been gaining size not so much strength. But I am about at 190 lbs and 11%bf. I don't understand how it could be possible to make these gains with testosterone that low. I have nolvadex and clomid on hand. It's been close to aunts though since my first vial. Please help let me know what to do. I am scared because workout is my life and this is exactly what I didn't want to happen. I have about 2 more injections with the second vial.

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    I have been eating about 500 grams if carbs 250 grams if protein and 100 grams of fats. So I'm about at 400 calories daily split into 7 meals. And been working out an hour and a half to 2 hours daily.

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    so the first vial put you at 1500
    then 2nd one put u at 44 ?
    seems like the 2nd one is not test, i would say it must be deca or something. that explains the major size gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich
    so the first vial put you at 1500
    then 2nd one put u at 44 ?
    seems like the 2nd one is not test, i would say it must be deca or something. that explains the major size gain
    The second one is definately not test. But the wierd thing is my sex drive is still no problem. But no near it as the first vial. But I've been injecting 1 cc twice a week. My dealer said this is very strong testosterone enanthate though. Which is wierd. It just seems impossible to gain that weight with such low testosterone and doesn't make sense to me.

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    Also my normal levels have ranged from 700-990 ng/dl without the use of anything. Any advice helps with how to approach this.

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    Anyone?

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    Get a new source. You don't even have a clue what it's dosed at or what your taking. What exactly is very strong test e

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld
    Get a new source. You don't even have a clue what it's dosed at or what your taking. What exactly is very strong test e
    Yes I have a new source and am never going back to this person. And he said the potency is at 300-400 mg per cc. So I would used about 2/3-3/4 a cc. What's done is done though and I gotta figure this situation out.

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    Your dealer is a a fukin jerk and is lying. I wouldn't bash you for your age but it seems you certainly are not in the know as to WTF is going on. Why ? Did you get a copy of you BW ? If not get it. See WTF is going on. You should have it in your hand. What is your E2 that will tell us some more.
    Get some good gear. Good gear is dosed what is says. AND your Test levels will talk appropriately. What is the second vial ?? ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike
    Your dealer is a a fukin jerk and is lying. I wouldn't bash you for your age but it seems you certainly are not in the know as to WTF is going on. Why ? Did you get a copy of you BW ? If not get it. See WTF is going on. You should have it in your hand. What is your E2 that will tell us some more.
    Get some good gear. Good gear is dosed what is says. AND your Test levels will talk appropriately. What is the second vial ?? ...crazy mike
    Yea this was me not knowing better and trusting the wrong person. But I don't have a physical copy yet. The just called me a couple hours ago and told me my numbers which is when I made my original post. I just got total test, free test which is 9.9 which is extremely low as well. And my sex binding globulin hormone level was normal. But my test being at 44 as a total is cery concerning. I started omega labs but after one injection I realized that everyone said it was bunk. So the second vial consisted of a vial with no labeling. This was the same as my first vial which was underdosed. I don't understand how I can be gaining weight and keeping strength with this low of test. As someone said earlier it might be deca? Or it could be some other form of anabolic besides testosterone? No really sure.

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    No not Deca. What is your E2...Estradiol levels...crazy mike

    Did you get your E2 test done...+

    I'm going to bed. Tomorrow is another day. ...cm
    Last edited by crazy mike; 08-23-2013 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike
    No not Deca. What is your E2...Estradiol levels...crazy mike

    Did you get your E2 test done...+

    I'm going to bed. Tomorrow is another day. ...cm
    No I didn't get my estrodial levels checked. But I am going to see if my doctor can request another lab order too see if those numbers have changed this last week. And I will get e2 checked. It should be high if the gear is legit correct? And low if no test is being injected which leads to no aromitization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackedbro View Post
    I don't wanna hear shit about my age because I did my research and talked to my endocrinologist and tests proved I am fully developed.
    I stopped reading after this .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrX

    I stopped reading after this .....
    That was a stupid post on your part. Don't wast our time

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackedbro View Post
    That was a stupid post on your part. Don't wast our time
    You claim to have done your "research" yet you post such noobish questions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrX View Post
    You claim to have done your "research" yet you post such noobish questions..
    Why bash on him? He's asking a legitimate question, If you're not willing to help why even bother to comment?

    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrX
    You claim to have done your "research" yet you post such noobish questions..
    It is my first cycle. And I just wanted to see people's input on here. My doctor is gonna contact me tommorow after talking to my endocrinogist and see what I should do. It's been over a month since Ive been using this stuff and i seemed to have gained the weight I want but I don't understand how my test is at 44 ng/dl. When it is 700-990 naturally and I could be making these gains. With levels of 44 I shouldn't even be able to be pushing the same weight week after week

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackedbro View Post
    It is my first cycle. And I just wanted to see people's input on here. My doctor is gonna contact me tommorow after talking to my endocrinogist and see what I should do. It's been over a month since Ive been using this stuff and i seemed to have gained the weight I want but I don't understand how my test is at 44 ng/dl. When it is 700-990 naturally and I could be making these gains. With levels of 44 I shouldn't even be able to be pushing the same weight week after week
    What kind of weight are you gaining though? it could be water weight.. the second vial has to be either a fake, sodium, or some other stuff that got mis-labeled.. Does your Doctor know about what youre doing?? To make things easy, I would take those test results to another endo, have him test you, once they come back low, the Endo would most likely give you a script for Test C and you could purchase it at a CVS or Walgreens

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    So my doctor said that having test at 44ng/dl is normal during a cycle does this make sense?

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